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Megan Penmann
Film Handler

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From: Gainesville, FL USA
Registered: Nov 1999


 - posted 12-05-1999 09:14 PM      Profile for Megan Penmann     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I was told that there's an array of LED's that read the signal and on Sony's older models, these LED's would burn out. When the LED's are replaced it sounds good. And apparently Sony sent out a technical memorandum on it, but no one really picked up on it.

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Ken Layton
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From: Olympia, Wash. USA
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 - posted 12-05-1999 09:21 PM      Profile for Ken Layton   Email Ken Layton   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Even with new LED's the sound still craps out. The Sony SDDS processor will spazz out in the middle of a show.

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Brad Miller
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From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall)
Registered: May 99


 - posted 12-05-1999 10:10 PM      Profile for Brad Miller   Author's Homepage   Email Brad Miller       Edit/Delete Post 
Yup, Ken's obviously "been there, done that" with SDDS. It may sound good when it doesn't spazz, but I guarantee you if you put a DTS or an SRD system in that auditorium, you wouldn't be praising SDDS in comparison.

If Sony pictures is actually giving a break on film rental by having these units installed, then I say ALL other studios should give breaks on SRD and DTS systems! Still, something about that just doesn't seem legal.

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Randy Stankey
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 - posted 12-08-1999 10:47 PM      Profile for Randy Stankey   Email Randy Stankey   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I was just reading the Maintainence Manual for the SDDS. Did anybody notice what it said on page 1-1?

Do not install in areas where it will be exposed to "strong lights", vibration, heat sources, "electricity noise" or static electricity. (I paraphrase)

If you read between the lines a little bit, Sony is telling you that their product souldn't be installed in any projection booth in the world!

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Robb Johnston
Expert Film Handler

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From: St. Louis Suburbs
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 - posted 12-18-1999 01:02 AM      Profile for Robb Johnston   Author's Homepage   Email Robb Johnston   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Back in April, I replaced the LED's on all my SDDS DFP 2000 readers and the dropping out has dropped to almost nothing. The few remaining times have been on used prints defiled by shoe polish which obliterated the soundtrack and prints built by one of my operators who until recently insisted on a short cut in the film path from the MUT to the platter which caused some damage.


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Gordon McLeod
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From: Toronto Ontario Canada
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 - posted 12-18-1999 11:35 AM      Profile for Gordon McLeod   Email Gordon McLeod   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Sony Cinema products is no more
SDDS is now being handled as any other sony product and they are dropping all but afew dealers that are willing to carry other Sony products

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Scott Ribbens
Expert Film Handler

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From: Los Angeles
Registered: Oct 1999


 - posted 12-18-1999 01:16 PM      Profile for Scott Ribbens   Email Scott Ribbens   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Gordon, why doesn't that suprise me?

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Stefan Scholz
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From: Schoenberg, Germany
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 - posted 12-18-1999 02:10 PM      Profile for Stefan Scholz   Author's Homepage   Email Stefan Scholz   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
To Randy: Do not install SDDS in projection boxes! You're right...
Before today, I did not know why you all were against SDDS,. My setup, a very early unit called "Anna" always worked reliable.
But having to say, even though the theatre runs conmmercially, the environment is different. It is operated by a professional film sound specialist, and everything kept in specs. With regular checkup of LED output before shows etc.

I was called to a local theatre, as they had no sound on SDDS, and they insisted on showing Bond (first week over here) in SDDS.
Primarily, they said, the unit has lost it's brain... due to a dead battery. Therefore they needed the specialist to redo the EQ and THX recert, as they didn't have the disk with the file, and the original installer meanwhile had bought a new laptop computer.
Having performed the EQ and leveling, not easy with the JBL 3 way, as the bass section lives on modulation distortion, we tested Bond. Simply horrible, lots of dropout, poor harsh sound, ghastly!
So testing LEDS was on schedule, both sides bad, replaceds 1000 hrs ago. Still not functioning for the warranted 10k hrs, even though no more Hewlett-Packard. Readjusting film trace until a perfect pickup was obtained. After all and 4 hrs of work the unit was back to sound, and the sound was really oK. As I am not working there, nobody will take care of the unit, and it will be out of specs quite soon.
I have understood my lesson.
But honestly, with DA 20 and lots of bad segments in series, the unit reverts to 2 sec or so of silence, and does not switch back to SR analog. I had many problems with this effort and the badly printed Phantom Menace prints this summer. Meanwhile Dolby offers new firmware... which was to late for me.
Let's stay with 6tk Mag. I prefer that

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Gordon McLeod
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Long live Mag

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Steve Guttag
We forgot the crackers Gromit!!!

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 - posted 12-18-1999 03:42 PM      Profile for Steve Guttag   Email Steve Guttag   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
>>"Sony Cinema products is no more
SDDS is now being handled as any other sony product and they are
dropping all but afew dealers that are willing to carry other Sony
products"<<

Is tht so? Where did you hear it?

I must admit my last encounter with a 3000 was a rather pleasent one as far as digital is concerned. It simply wouldn't drop out, gag or otherwise do the traditional SDDS glitches. It tuned up rather well too. I'm not too crazy about it's optical (excuse me PEC) a-chain but then again, I'm not too crazy about anybody's optical a-chain except Dolby's of yesteryear.

Steve

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Brad Miller
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 - posted 12-18-1999 05:02 PM      Profile for Brad Miller   Author's Homepage   Email Brad Miller       Edit/Delete Post 
YAH! Gordon gets the "Best News of the Century Award" from me! Hopefully this is a sign of a path following the tradition of CDS.

Gordon, got any specifics you can tell us?

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Steve Guttag
We forgot the crackers Gromit!!!

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 - posted 12-18-1999 09:00 PM      Profile for Steve Guttag   Email Steve Guttag   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
>>"Gordon, got any specifics you can tell us?"<<

Definately want specifics on this one.

Steve

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Scott Norwood
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From: Boston, MA. USA (1774.21 miles northeast of Dallas)
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 - posted 12-18-1999 09:41 PM      Profile for Scott Norwood   Author's Homepage   Email Scott Norwood   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
What's wrong with CDS? Surely it was a better product than SDDS...at least it supported 70mm. And I know of at least one dealer who has a complete CDS system in storage (I've seen it).

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George Roher
Master Film Handler

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From: Washington DC
Registered: Jul 99


 - posted 12-18-1999 11:53 PM      Profile for George Roher   Email George Roher   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Ding dong the witch is dead! Good riddance to SDDS! Now if we could only get similar good news about Technicolor... Good things happen in threes don't they?

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Gordon McLeod
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From: Toronto Ontario Canada
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 - posted 12-19-1999 12:05 PM      Profile for Gordon McLeod   Email Gordon McLeod   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
A rep from Sony'w profesional division came in and just told that a lot dealers would be axed in the conversion and we could either sign up for the complete sony line or drop out
Taylor and company they said were gone

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