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Brad Miller
Administrator

Posts: 17775
From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall)
Registered: May 99

posted 07-24-1999 03:06 PM

Talk about your highway robbery! All the SPECO machine is, is a slightly fabricated piece of metal. Granted $200 of that is the rollers, but is that "machine" worth $400? I think not. Especially since they don't work.

I always thought it funny in the SPECO ads for this product the film running through the PTRs is faded red. Kind of makes you wonder what the long term effects are! (just kidding)

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Scott Norwood
Film God

Posts: 8146
From: Boston, MA. USA (1774.21 miles northeast of Dallas)
Registered: Jun 99

posted 07-25-1999 03:13 PM

Here's another item for the list of "unnecessarily expensive cinema equipment": those little blades that cut the tape on a Neumade splicer (the ones that look just like razor blades) cost $7 apiece! Now _that's_ highway robbery!

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Aaron Mehocic
Jedi Master Film Handler

Posts: 804
From: New Castle, PA, USA
Registered: Jun 99

posted 07-26-1999 10:43 AM

Scott,

I agree with those blades being overpriced. What is Neumade thinking? Are they made out of platnum or something? Three years ago, I ordered eight new blades and it took literally ALL SUMMER for Neumade to send them out! That's customer service! Anybody else had a problem receiving equipment from Neumade?

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Joe Redifer
You need a beating today

Posts: 12859
From: Denver, Colorado
Registered: May 99

posted 07-26-1999 11:28 AM

When we built my theatre, we tried to order Neumade splicers. They said that they were "all out". We bought CIR splicers instead. A few weeks ago I ordered a Neumade splicer and it came within 3 weeks or so. Very quick. Neumade is a crappy company, but their product (except their lamphouses and platters) are good. Anyway, weren't we talking about wet gate projection or something in this post?

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Gene Stavis
Film Handler

Posts: 26
From: New York, NY
Registered: Aug 1999

posted 08-10-1999 04:04 PM

<<That trick on 16mm depends completely on your projector. Many
16mm projectors can't
handle the overlap. Most can, though. I'd try it and see how it runs
through the gate. Perhaps
you could make a loop. Just make sure the overlap is very, very small.
Not even the thickness
of a dime.>>

Paillard Bolex made a 16mm splicer which bevelled both the emulsion and
base sides of the
splice, so the resulting overlapped splice was the same thickness as the
original film. Anyone
had any experience with these?

I have a large collection of 16mm prints and I use an RTI Pulsar 800
inspection and cleaning
machine. Will Film-Guard be able to be substituted for the RTI liquid
cleaner?

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Sheldon Harris
Film Handler

Posts: 16
From: Chicago, IL USA
Registered: Jun 99

posted 08-10-1999 04:22 PM

Yes, like Gene I have the RTI cleaner machine and would love to try the Filmguard with it...possible??

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Brad Miller
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Posts: 17775
From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall)
Registered: May 99

posted 08-10-1999 05:48 PM

I've never used the RTI machine. I would assume it would work just fine. Can someone explain how it works? Is it a drip system like the Eeco?

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Sheldon Harris
Film Handler

Posts: 16
From: Chicago, IL USA
Registered: Jun 99

posted 08-10-1999 10:43 PM

On my machine, the intended cleaning liquid was RTI Type B, which I no longer use and have replaced with Filmrenew.... the fluid drips on to two cleaning tapes. The film passes between the two tapes. The cleaning tapes feed off a supply roll and pass through the cleaning gate and to a take up roll and cannot be reused.

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Gene Stavis
Film Handler

Posts: 26
From: New York, NY
Registered: Aug 1999

posted 08-11-1999 07:32 PM

The most obvious difference between RTI Type B and FilmRenew (and, I presume FilmGuard) is that RTI is extremely fast drying, like ECCO 1500. In fact, the machine uses a large, horizontal loop of film to allow the fluid to dry before it gets to the take-up reel.

I have used the ECCO system too. It also depends on the fast-drying quality of the fluid. RTI automatically advances the flannel tape; ECCO requires you to do it by hand.

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Brad Miller
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From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall)
Registered: May 99

posted 08-11-1999 09:09 PM

From the sounds of the two descriptions of the RTI machine, I see no reason why it would not work. However, I would just say to soak the pads down (like one hell of a big Kelmar cleaner) and NOT put anything in the drip container. FilmGuard does not evaporate...thus, a constant drip would get those pads literally dripping wet and there "is" such a thing as too much.

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Joe Redifer
You need a beating today

Posts: 12859
From: Denver, Colorado
Registered: May 99

posted 10-12-1999 12:13 AM

Yeah, Film Guard is great stuff!

I hear it comes in 5 gallon drums now if you go through it like no tomorrow.

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