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Author Topic: Vote NOW ----> Kodak or Fuji Gordon McLeod Film God Posts: 9532 From: Toronto Ontario Canada Registered: Jun 99 posted 08-04-1999 05:29 PM                     The best method of honing down the gate is to make a positive use out of what used to be every engineers curse. Use 4 track mag stock spliced into a loop and it will wear down all the gate parts nice and fast. Many in this group probably will not remeber the wear on machine that ran 4 track mag and how quickluy the gate and pads wore down. If you contact a lab or a large format theatre the full coat mag stock on polyestar is also good Splice a loop good and long with an UltraSonic splice and thread it up and let it run with the highest gate tension for a day adding a small amount of cutting oil Reverse it and do the same so that the other facxe of the gate is polished. For years this is how Mitchell used to hone down camera parts A diffrent type of valve grinding and that compound rubbed onto the mag stock will speed it up During the installation of all new machine I usually do this and they don't have a lot of problems afterwards The best method is what Ernaman and Norleco used to do have velvet lined gate bands I have done this on Vic 5 and produced rocksteady images The hairs of the velvet (that must be kept spotlessly clean) act like tiny registration pins holding the film steady.  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 08-04-1999 06:42 PM                     I have tried the method Gordon described here and it works quite nicely! If anyone wants to send me a roll of mag fullcoat on polyestar stock, I will be happy to make loops in whatever size you wish with an ultrasonic splice and send back to you. I also tried the velvet gate bands. It does help a little bit, but I had to change them every TWO days on a Christie...thus it is not worth it for any of you Christie operators. For something else like a Century or Cinemecannica where gate tension is low and gentle on the film...go for it!  |  IP: Logged Gordon McLeod Film God Posts: 9532 From: Toronto Ontario Canada Registered: Jun 99 posted 08-04-1999 08:04 PM                     I am still interested in trying the genuine norelco velvet ribbon on a christie but the ones here are all straight gate with super movements in them so they don't count as they don't have many problems.  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 08-04-1999 08:09 PM                     Send some samples down of the Norelco ribbon. I'll test it out and report back on it. Always looking for ANYTHING that will give a truly steady picture from a Christie.  |  IP: Logged John Pytlak Film God Posts: 9987 From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922 Registered: Jan 2000 posted 08-05-1999 08:15 AM                        "Fullcoat" Magnetic Oxide Recording Film on 5-mil Polyester Base should still be available from FPC in Hollywood. About $50 USD for a 1000-foot roll. ------------------ John Pytlak  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 08-05-1999 02:24 PM                     I don't think the FPC address and phone number has been posted anywhere here before. Got the info handy for everyone?  |  IP: Logged John Pytlak Film God Posts: 9987 From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922 Registered: Jan 2000 posted 08-09-1999 04:11 PM                        FPC has a website at: http://www.fpcfilm.com/US/en/motion/FPC/fpc_main.html Their phone number is 800-814-1333. Address is: FPC 6677 Santa Monica Boulevard Hollywood, CA 90038 ------------------ John Pytlak  |  IP: Logged John Pytlak Film God Posts: 9987 From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922 Registered: Jan 2000 posted 08-09-1999 04:13 PM                        Tried the URL I gave for FPC and it didn't work. Let's keep it simple: http://www.fpcfilm.com ------------------ John Pytlak  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 08-09-1999 07:42 PM                        I have several unused rolls of FPC Fullcoat Mag. I will sell them to anybody for far far far less than $50! Like maybe just covering postage?  |  IP: Logged Randy Stankey Film God Posts: 6539 From: Erie, Pennsylvania Registered: Jun 99 posted 10-27-1999 10:21 PM                     Politics.  |  IP: Logged David Johnson Film Handler Posts: 54 From: Melbourne Vict Australia Registered: Oct 1999 posted 11-03-1999 03:45 AM                     My experience is that the Americian style projectors, with the metal shoe and metal gate are the cause of all the problems, With Kinoton DP75 and FP20, both use a plastic gate and shoe and no problems exist with either stock. The Vic 8 also seems fine, while they use a metal gate they have a different shoe design. David  |  IP: Logged George Roher Master Film Handler Posts: 266 From: Washington DC Registered: Jul 99 posted 11-03-1999 11:14 PM                     I've had some serious shedding problems with a Vic 8.  |  IP: Logged

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