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Topic: Curved Screens vs Flat Screens
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William Bunch
Film Handler

Posts: 87
From: Misawa, Japan
Registered: Nov 2001
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posted 11-21-2001 12:42 AM
I'm new here so forgive me if this gets into the wrong location. I am tasked with maintenance of 35 or so military theaters out here in the Pacific. As many of you might know our operations are quite old but they still hum along quite nicely.My question is concerning the curved screens. All of our frames are curved but only a mild one. I'm assuming this had something to do with the old 20 pound Super Panatar prism anamorphics that we used to employ. Nowdays we are using Schneiders and the majority of our screens are average 15 x 35 feet. Most auditoriums seat 400 - 500 with a couple theaters twice as large. About six years ago we began being issued silver screens to replace our matte whites. We get good contrast and brightness but that is only for the audience in the middle seats. Our auditoriums are multi use facilities so the seat rows go quite far off of center. Also being multi use these silver screens are prone to gathering handprints, etc. At ShoWest this last March the Harkness Hall folks said we should not be using silver at all but rather Perlux or matte white. I wonder what the group would have to say about this. I have read through all the earlier postings and can find nothing to disagree with as you all have good points indeed. Would Perlux give the best features of both matte white and silver? Bill Bunch Army, Air Force Exchange Service
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Steve Guttag
We forgot the crackers Gromit!!!

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From: Annapolis, MD
Registered: Dec 1999
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posted 11-21-2001 07:06 AM
The only point to a silver screen is for 3-D....to get even illumination, one has to curve it substantially.Depending on the curve of your screen, either a matte-white or a perlux (if using Harkness) would indeed be appropriate. If the curve' radius is on the order of the projection distance, then matte-white would be my preference...as the curve increases (shorter radius) then the pearl screen will peform best. To really get the right screen though, one HAS to match up screen-gain with the geometry of the projection and auditorium. People that just pick a screen gain and radius willy nilly, don't know what they are doing. Steve ------------------ "Old projectionists never die, they just changeover!"
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John Pytlak
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Posts: 9987
From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922
Registered: Jan 2000
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posted 11-21-2001 08:01 AM
Harkness Hall ran a fairly comprehensive study of screen gain and curvature a few years ago, and presented a report at the ITEA Seminar in Los Angeles. Participants included Schneider Optics, Kodak, Lucasfilm, and Famous Players theatres.SMPTE Recommended Practice RP 95 specifies "Installation of Gain Screens". The optimal way to determine the proper curve is by ray tracing. The idea is to curve a gain screen such that the projected light is reflected back to the center of the prime seating area. Very high gain "silver" screens are VERY directional, and as you note, sensitive to handprints, showing seams, etc. Their primary application is polarized 3D projection, which requires a screen that maintains polarization of the reflected light. For moderate (15 x 35 foot) sized screens, a matte or slight gain surface is the best choice, since getting enough light is usually not an issue. Here are some links to information: http://www.bksts.demon.co.uk/articles/jul97.htm http://www.harknesshall.com/data1.htm http://www.kodak.com/US/en/motion/newsletters/reel/fall97/screen.shtml http://www.schneideroptics.com/software/theatre_design_pro/ http://www.schneideroptics.com/info/white_papers/cinema_projection_distortion.pdf ------------------ John P. Pytlak, Senior Technical Specialist Worldwide Technical Services, Entertainment Imaging Research Labs, Building 69, Room 7525A Rochester, New York, 14650-1922 USA Tel: 716-477-5325 Cell: 716-781-4036 Fax: 716-722-7243 E-Mail: john.pytlak@kodak.com Web site: http://www.kodak.com/go/motion
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Mark Gulbrandsen
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From: Music City
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 11-21-2001 09:35 AM
I much prefer the Perlux 2 surface if the budget will support it. Perlux 1 is really made for wrap around type frames and cannot be folded for transport wheras Perlux 1 can be folded into a box(in a special way) and sent by UPS. Its obvious that you have a fairly wide auditorium and a silver screen will never work right in that sort of situation. Silver screens are very directional in their characteristics and will only be best viewed from a limited number of seats in any auditorium. My definate choise for a really large screen that has just a slight curve(which is fine)would be Perlux. You'll have a good compromise on reflectivity vs. seating area with this surface. Perlux is also a fairly long lived surface as well. If you think there might be problems where the screen may get dirty then a matte white is the best choice as it can be cleaned by several methods that all give good results. As far as brand...stick only with Harkness. They make the best surface by far and are a pleasure to do buisness with. Proper installation of a Harkness screen is imperitive for proper performance of the surface and few people are aware of how this should be done. The top of the screen should be installed with either lacing cord loops all the same size, or black cable ties. The bottom of the screen is then stretched about ten to twelve inches, or to make the top and bottom gap even. Use standard lacing procedures on the bottom but go back and forth a couple of times to stretch it down that much. The sides can be sprung or laced in, what ever you prefer. On curved frames pay close attention to the center of the screen to be sure that it does not belly out from being tensioned too tight on the sides. When the screen is tensioned ten inches to a foot, the seams and any slight wrinkles literally vanish completely and the surface looks to be seamless. Mark @ GTS
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