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Scott Norwood
Film God

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From: Boston, MA. USA (1774.21 miles northeast of Dallas)
Registered: Jun 99


 - posted 11-20-1999 10:28 AM      Profile for Scott Norwood   Author's Homepage   Email Scott Norwood   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Keep the paper bands with the print; I'd only toss them if they were totally trashed and/or if they had the name of a different movie on them. A couple of features that I have in my private collection still have the original bands, which I think is kind of neat...

For shipping, my preference is tails-out. Then, the film can be inspected and rewound only once onto 2000' or 6000' house reels. That said, I usually ran shows on 6000' house reels and rewound the film heads-out onto the shipping reels after the last show. Oh, well...

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Christopher A Kerr
Film Handler

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From: Oakville, Ontario, Canada
Registered: Sep 1999


 - posted 11-20-1999 02:11 PM      Profile for Christopher A Kerr   Email Christopher A Kerr   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
John:

In Canada (Ontario at least) the bands are placed on the reels by the provincial film review board to indentify that the film has been rated and approved for showing. My understanding is that we are required to keep the bands and put them back on the film before shipping. If not, I would cerimonialy burn them in the alley behind the theatre every friday night as an offering to the film gods.

As to the heads / tails debate, if reels come tails up, I make up and inspect at the bench. If they come heads up, I make up at the platter, I just run it slower and do my inspection as it goes. Really it doesn't bother me which way they come in, as long as all the reels in a particular feature are the same. Nothing will ruin your day like a five reel feature that has reels 1,3,5 heads up and reels 2,4 tails up. Someone out there must go to a lot of work to ship a film like this, and I really wish they wouldn't.

Cheers


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Steve Guttag
We forgot the crackers Gromit!!!

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From: Annapolis, MD
Registered: Dec 1999


 - posted 11-20-1999 02:40 PM      Profile for Steve Guttag   Email Steve Guttag   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Not to be without an opinion (and I know I have posted elsewhere here...)

Films should always be shipped tails out with their paper bands properly installed.

As others have stated, tails out allows for any receiving house to inspect the film onto house reels for either platter or changeover showings. Tails out winding also typically has the emulsion in for better focus stability.

The paper bands allow for keeping the ends of the reels from coming loose without using any form of tape that typically oozes it's adhesive onto the film. I can't believe this is such a big deal for anybody.

Steve

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Brad Miller
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From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall)
Registered: May 99


 - posted 11-20-1999 05:05 PM      Profile for Brad Miller   Author's Homepage   Email Brad Miller       Edit/Delete Post 
Tails out, emulsion OUT (that's right Steve ) Not all of us have those wonderful vintage Century JJs to run incoming films on and emulsion in winds are not friendly to many makes of projectors.

I think in regards to tape, most people on this forum already use white artist's tape or something similar and not that cheap K-mart masking tape.

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Scott Ribbens
Expert Film Handler

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From: Los Angeles
Registered: Oct 1999


 - posted 11-20-1999 11:12 PM      Profile for Scott Ribbens   Email Scott Ribbens   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Head out or tail out, I don't care. As was earlier stated, as long as all of the reels come in one orientation.

As far as focus stability, I never had any problem with a film, but trailers, that's another issue! Now if we can get those trailers off of those 1" cores and onto something a bit larger, like they used to do, that would solve that problem!

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Scott

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John Walsh
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From: Connecticut, USA, Earth, Milky Way
Registered: Oct 1999


 - posted 11-21-1999 12:02 AM      Profile for John Walsh   Email John Walsh   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
"I think in regards to tape, most people on this forum already use white artist's tape or something similar and not that cheap K-mart masking tape."


Um, er, well,... Say, how about those Yankees!

White artist's tape is about $5 a roll around here. And with the way we go through it, can't justify the cost.

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