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Topic: More Important Q? First movie you wrecked?
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Scott Norwood
Film God

Posts: 8146
From: Boston, MA. USA (1774.21 miles northeast of Dallas)
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 11-22-1999 07:34 AM
I've never personally caused significant damage to a film (although I admit to a few lost frames here and there), but I did stop by the Theatre one night to pick up some of my stuff only to watch with horror as a co-worker (not in the booth at the time! shame on him!) trashed a print of the Dutch film "Character" (a great film, by the way) by not closing the pad roller on the lower sprocket of the soundhead.
Basically, he managed to trash the first 2 1/2 reels or it (6000' reels)--and this was an acetate print! About half-way through the second reel, the take-up reel had stopped taking up (since the film was lop-sided on the reel) and half of the second (trashed) reel ended up on the floor. This was with 6000' reels.
I'd really hoped that the distributor (Sony Pictures Classics) would have a fit when the print was returned to them and bill management for the print (and maybe would encourage mgmt. to hire competent projectionists), but, amazingly, they never said a word...argh!
I was pretty upset about the whole experience, but no one else seemed to care... At least I could feel good that probably 90% of the films that I handled left the theatre in better condition than they arrived (not a difficult thing to do, since we were running mostly second-run and rep stuff that had previously been run at AMC and Carmike houses...).
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John Walsh
Film God

Posts: 2490
From: Connecticut, USA, Earth, Milky Way
Registered: Oct 1999
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posted 11-22-1999 11:18 AM
We have a theater, a twin, (actually, the lease is up on the 28th- we're not renewing) where the operator had turned the seperate 'rewind room' into his own living room. A stereo, cable TV, microwave oven, big easy chair. He would start the film, and go in there and close the door, and only come out in time for the next film.One day he starts (I forget the film), then goes in to watch TV. The film starts to split in half at the failsafes, and runs that way from the middle of R1 to the end. (Which is a known problem with these types of failsafes from Kelmar.) Since both halfs were being taken-up, no alarms went off. Since it split after the soundhead, no indication appeared onscreen.
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Johanna Innes
Film Handler
Posts: 15
From: Formerly of Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 11-22-1999 11:09 PM
Erick:I've worked in a couple of non-tiled booths at other theaters, and the carpeted one at my usual theater. Now that I've thought about it, it's kind of an interesting situation: - Our carpeted booth is very staticky. - One of the tiled booths has no static problems. This is in a very new theater, all new ventilation, etc, etc, etc. - The other booth is actually concrete, and had static from hell. This was in a very old theater (50+ years maybe). They "borrowed" our portable humidifier after they had a wrap on the opening midnight showing of Star Wars TPM and some kind soul in the audience called that 1-800-rat-on-us-to-Lucas phone number. Oh, and may I add that I got that print in my theaters after it had gone through 2 other locations, and it left my care in MUCH better shape than it arrived in? I can't begin to tell you how much I hate it when some lazy projectionist decides to leave 8 million layers of splice tape at every splice when he's making up. Anyway, I'm guessing that the whole static issue is a combination of all the old culprits - carpet, poor ventilation, low humidity, high heat, etc.
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Mark Ogden
Jedi Master Film Handler
Posts: 943
From: Little Falls, N.J.
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 11-27-1999 11:40 AM
My most embaressing moment? "The French Lieutenant's Woman" in the late 70s or so. Twin theater with 2 Norelcos per side and 6000 ft. reels, and me, a young novice without an apprentice card.So I'm loading up the movie on the B screen, and I'm thinking about beer or my girlfriend or somesuch thing, cause I put up reel one and forget to push the reel latch down. And the movie starts fine, so I head down the hall to the A screen and thread up the movie there, and start it rolling. And I'm sitting there fat dumb and happy for about 10 minutes when from down the hall I hear: sproingKABAMMM!!!! I look down the hall to see the reel rolling on the floor after falling off the spindle. Now this chain (CinemaNational, which was sold to Mid-States, which was sold to USA, which was sold to Loews, which was sold to Hoyt's, which is being sold) bought these flimsy, crapola non-floating hub reels. And when this one hit the floor, one of the flanges bent under it so as to prevent the film from paying out properly. I could NOT get this thing to bend out again. Finally the popcorn kid came up to see why the show was off, and we finaly located this big honkin' screwdriver and were able to use it as a pry bar to bend the flange back enough to allow the film to pass thru. Now the manager is watching the two of us on the floor trying to get the reel bent back into shape, and he's laughing his ass off as he thinks that this is the funniest thing he's ever seen. The next night I went upstairs, and a sign had been hung from the reel spindle in his writing: LATCH GOES DOWN BEFORE STARTING PROJECTOR
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Steve Guttag
We forgot the crackers Gromit!!!

Posts: 12814
From: Annapolis, MD
Registered: Dec 1999
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posted 11-27-1999 03:53 PM
Boy have you all got me beat! The best I can come up with is a misthread in my youth...It was _BACK ROADS_ starring Sally Fields, I caought it after the show started (there were cue rollers where the UPPER fire valves used to be and I went on the wrong side of them and tried to rethread them with the film running (this is long before polyester besmirched the projection booths) and in the process of rethreading the rollers....<SNAP>. Other than the break, no damage.Steve ------------------ "Old Projectionists never die, they just changeover!"
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