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Topic: 3-D projection
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John Pytlak
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From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922
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posted 07-19-2001 10:50 AM
Best 3D I've seen was at the IMAX Dome (aka "Solido") Fujitsu theatre in Chiba Japan in 1991. Production was "Echoes of the Sun": http://www.imax.com/films/distribution/echoes_of_sun.html Two-strip IMAX 3D film projected on a domed screen with the PSE LCD glasses. The 3D image literally surrounded you, as you could turn your head to view a wrap-around 3D image. AFAIK, "Race for Atlantis" at Caesars World in Las Vegas is shown using a similar process, but is CGI rather than live action: http://www.imax.com/raceforatlantis/tech.html Even on a flat screen, IMAX 3D is very impressive if done correctly. ------------------ John P. Pytlak, Senior Technical Specialist Worldwide Technical Services, Entertainment Imaging Eastman Kodak Company Research Labs, Building 69, Room 7419 Rochester, New York, 14650-1922 USA Tel: 716-477-5325 Cell: 716-781-4036 Fax: 716-722-7243 E-Mail: john.pytlak@kodak.com Web site: http://www.kodak.com/go/motion
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Mark Lensenmayer
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posted 07-19-2001 05:17 PM
I agree, John, that 3-D IMAX at its best is breathtaking. The Pet Shop Boys section of CYBERWORLD was wonderful, but my favorite by far is the hanging paint blobs in PAINT MISBEHAVIN'. I've never yet seen that without most of the audience reaching out for the blobs.I'm hoping to see JOURNEY OF MAN next week, which I've heard is very good also. Looks like many of the commercial IMAX houses are playing 35mm this summer...too bad there's not enough exciting large format product out there. BUT, that's another topic. Mark Lensenmayer
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Mitchell Dvoskin
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From: West Milford, NJ, USA
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posted 12-17-2001 11:54 AM
I have been lucky to recently see a great many of the classic 1950's 3D film in there original 2 projector polarized format, and I have to say that the process is stunning, and it improved every film I have seen this way. Just some observations: Keeping the projectors in sync, whether by physically locking the moters together, or electronical with selsin moters, is not a problem. The problems arise when the left and right eye prints are threaded out of sync, or spliced out of sync. Think about it, if you have a film break on 1 print, and take out a few frames to fix, you have to find the exact location (to the frame) on the other print, and remove the same. If not, it causes eye strain. Also, when you thread the projectors, no only must you thread both prints starting at the exact same point, but you need to make sure the shutter on the 2 projectors is at the exact same point. If not, again eye strain. Many of these films were later re-issued on single strip 3d, either over under or side by side. Neither is as sharp or clear as dual strip. Then even worse, since polarized 3D requires a silver screen, many were later converted to anaglyph (red/cyan) which is headache inducing, but can be projected onto any screen. 3D done right is fantastic. /Mitchell
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John Pytlak
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posted 12-17-2001 12:23 PM
Scratches or dirt on one "eye" of a 3D print will be visible, and detract from the presentation. But they won't "take away from the 3Dness". Careful attention must be paid to proper syncronization and alignment of the two images. Polarized 3D systems are not very light efficient, so smaller formats (e.g., single strip 35mm prints with both "eyes" printed next to each other) often struggle to get adequate screen luminance on bigger screens.------------------ John P. Pytlak, Senior Technical Specialist Worldwide Technical Services, Entertainment Imaging Research Labs, Building 69, Room 7525A Rochester, New York, 14650-1922 USA Tel: 716-477-5325 Cell: 716-781-4036 Fax: 716-722-7243 E-Mail: john.pytlak@kodak.com Web site: http://www.kodak.com/go/motion
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Peter Kerchinsky
Master Film Handler
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From: Seattle, WA, USA
Registered: Jan 2002
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posted 01-13-2002 04:18 AM
I've just come on-line with this service and noticed this discussion regarding 3D films and found it all very interesting. I had a single screen theatre just outside Portland, OR. Sometime ago. We installed a silver screen when the single-strip 3D films starting hitting the market. Ran a few and found the whole system, using that Stereovision lens, was really bad. I finally got fed up with that system and installed selsyn motors, got the poloarized filters and lots of the Polaroid 3D glasses and set up an entire festival using the original 3D process. Some of the prints we ran were CREATURE FROM THE BLACK LAGOON, IT CAME FROM OUTER SPACE, DIAL M FOR MURDER, CHARGE AT FEATHER RIVER, MAN IN THE DARK, MAD MAGICIAN, FORT TI, THE MAZE (incredible 3D effects) and those two Stooges shorts SPOOKS and PARDON MY BACKFIRE. I was surprised the studios still had these prints at the time. We tried to get a few from FOX, but they would not let them go. I found the audience response today was much different than when I first saw them back in the 50s. Obviously then all studios were pushing the new wide screen processes, which of course, you could see without glasses.
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