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Steve Guttag
We forgot the crackers Gromit!!!

Posts: 12814
From: Annapolis, MD
Registered: Dec 1999


 - posted 12-17-1999 08:35 AM      Profile for Steve Guttag   Email Steve Guttag   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
My biggest peeve is rather obvious for anyone that knows me...it is....

PLATTERS I can't say enough bad about them and the damage they have done to the industry (both personelwise and showmanship wise)

The next thing is the huge tolerence of mediorcity for the show by the big exhibitors. Why they allowed polyester to be forced on them, don't back bill for broken/crappy shipping reels...spending untold dollars on the lobby but squat on the booth, including qualified booth personel.

Steve

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Jason Burroughs
Jedi Master Film Handler

Posts: 654
From: Allen, TX
Registered: Jun 99


 - posted 12-17-1999 09:43 AM      Profile for Jason Burroughs   Email Jason Burroughs   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I'm supprised no one has mentioned fire alarms that shut all the projectors down (lets face it 99% of them are false alarms)

Also then the power goes out, comes back on, you get all the projectors going again etc... and the power goes out again just as you start that last projector.

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Joe Redifer
You need a beating today

Posts: 12859
From: Denver, Colorado
Registered: May 99


 - posted 12-17-1999 04:19 PM      Profile for Joe Redifer   Author's Homepage   Email Joe Redifer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
How about power surges? They are especially rough at my theatre since we have CHRISTIE CA21 AUTOMATION. When the power comes back on, the projectors start back up again because they are too stupid to realize that the failsafes are down and begin to motor film ONTO THE FLOOR until we manually shut them down. All 16 of them. What's worse is that Christie knows of the problem and WILL NOT FIX IT.

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John Wilson
Film God

Posts: 5438
From: Sydney, Australia.
Registered: Dec 1999


 - posted 12-17-1999 05:34 PM      Profile for John Wilson   Email John Wilson   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Booth:

1. Not cleaning up the heads and tails, leaving masking tape and s**t film to tail out through the machine and around the sound head.

2. Those stupid yellow dots some like to plaster over the image to mark where the reel change is.

3. Not keeping the booth clean, or at least tidy.

4. Walking into an un-prepared box (wrong lenses / plates etc.)

5. Making up a print where the previous guy /gal has just slapped any old leader and tail on any old spool. (ah, they'll work it out!)

Floor.

1. Ushers standing around chatting to each other while the bins are overflowing.

2. Patrons who think you owe them a quart of blood because they just paid $5 to see a picture and they didn't like it.

3. Patrons who walk out at the end of a film and demand their money back because YOU (never seen them before in my life) sent them into the wrong auditorium.

Management.

1. Who never appear once they waltz through into the office until it's time to lock up and go home.

2. Upper management (Loose terminology) who abuse the two-way.

3. Programmers who program 4 shows to start at the same time in a four-plex with four separate projection rooms, one completely manual, all on four separate levels. Fortunately, this no longer affects me, but it should be even more fun once they add the two extra (separate boxes) screens.


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Johanna Innes
Film Handler

Posts: 15
From: Formerly of Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
Registered: Nov 1999


 - posted 12-18-1999 12:00 AM      Profile for Johanna Innes   Email Johanna Innes   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Peeves:

- Too many people working the booth. Things get lost, misplaced, mistreated, movies made up badly, stuff isn't cleaned, need I go on?
- People who have no business in the booth smoking (!!!), eating, or whatever up there and leaving a huge mess.
- Other theatres stealing my equipment and not bringing it back. Just because you got a print from me on 36" reels doesn't mean I want you to keep the reels.
- Splices that nobody has bothered to remove 8 layers of tape from.
- Tails up prints (how is this even possible???).
- Star Wars: TPM, which we're getting back for Christmas. I could just puke.
- Patrons who are convinced the print is out of focus/too loud/too quiet/whatever when it's fine.
- Going to a movie at another theatre which is out of focus, or has the masking in wrong position, or is too quiet/too loud.
- These get special mention as being the most annoying: holes in the screen, booth lights left on and reflecting off of everything, suck 'em 'n' chuck 'ems (gummi bears stuck to the screen) aka lick 'em 'n' flick 'ems. And last but most annoying of all: OUT OF FRAME PRESENTATION!!!!! How hard is it to frame a movie? I hate the "start it and walk away" method!!!

This comes to mind after going to see Toy Story 2 tonight out of focus, out of frame, on a screen with a huge hole, and the masking jammed partially open.

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Scott Ribbens
Expert Film Handler

Posts: 118
From: Los Angeles
Registered: Oct 1999


 - posted 12-18-1999 01:17 AM      Profile for Scott Ribbens   Email Scott Ribbens   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
This comes to mind after going to see Toy Story 2 tonight out of focus, out of frame, on a screen with a huge hole, and the masking jammed partially open.

Johanna, I hope that you went and demanded your money back, hopefully before the second reel of the show, or at least talked to the manager about these problems. If I were to find the conditions mentioned, I would not stick around to see the whole show. I've walked out on a show and demanded my money back, not a pass, and got the money. Told them I would not come back until the problems were fixed. I Have not gone back to a theatre or two. It might also help to get the number to the corporate office and write a letter to them. I've done that too. But If we, the people who rant about bad presentations here on this forum, don't speak up about these things, why would we expect the public at large to be any different?

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Masao Garcia
Film Handler

Posts: 34
From: Lancaster, CA, USA
Registered: Oct 1999


 - posted 12-18-1999 04:28 AM      Profile for Masao Garcia   Email Masao Garcia   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I've had a hilarious time reading alla this stuff. Here are a couple of mine:

- When people put more than one or two folds in the leader when attaching it to a take up ring.
- When the opening usher-b/projectionist doesn't clean the port hole glass.
- When people don't keep the leader off the floor when threading.
- Trailers that are base side out.
- Preshow ads (the slides too).
- Interference on crappy walkie talkies.
- Technicolor and pissy patrons.

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Tim Reed
Better Projection Pays

Posts: 5246
From: Northampton, PA
Registered: Sep 1999


 - posted 12-23-1999 12:35 PM      Profile for Tim Reed   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Randy Loy, I used to tell theatre personnel, "if the screen is dark and there is no sound... I KNOW about the trouble and I'm in the process of correcting it. In these cases, please, DO NOT buzz the booth, lest you create additional delay". "If the screen is running white, I'm either asleep or dead, and I do NOT know about it. Buzz then, or come running.

Alternately, you might want to try this:

Next time you have a problem and the man calls you on the intercom wanting to play 20 questions... cut him off in mid-sentence, tell him to hold on, and hang up. Then, calmly walk downstairs to his office and explain as best you can what the trouble is. When he asks why all the people are standing around in the lobby, tell him you didn't have time to fix it, because he wanted to know what was going on!

I know someone who actually did this, and he got left alone from that point on.

This guy really knew how to get results, consider this stunt... a manager appeared in the booth doorway, holding a trailer, and demanded it be put on immediately. The operator calmly got up from his chair and took the trailer. He then walked over to the automation, hit the STOP button and killed the show, then proceeded to put the trailer on!

Ya gotta love old-time union men!

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Stephen Jones
Master Film Handler

Posts: 314
From: Geelong Victoria Australia
Registered: Jun 99


 - posted 12-23-1999 07:22 PM      Profile for Stephen Jones   Email Stephen Jones   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
So called experienced projectionists who stick head and tail leaders in the box or tin any old how and you have look for the one you want which is usually the last one you pull out of the mess.Also the same experinced people who dont clean projectors,dont check threading and trash brand new prints on the first day.

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Gordon Leslie
Film Handler

Posts: 39
From: Perth ,Western Australia
Registered: Sep 1999


 - posted 12-25-1999 07:17 AM      Profile for Gordon Leslie   Email Gordon Leslie   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
My biggest peeves would have to be ...

1 Leaders&Tails spliced soundtrack opposite.
2 Automation cues left on film grrrrr!!!
3 Film not taped down for shipping.
4 Staples used as automation cues.
5 Cardboard dividers not used in shipping boxes, just left stacked at the bottom of the box.

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Joshua Lott
Expert Film Handler

Posts: 246
From: Fairbanks, AK, USA
Registered: Nov 1999


 - posted 12-26-1999 03:53 AM      Profile for Joshua Lott   Author's Homepage   Email Joshua Lott   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
About the Fire alarms. I am in a new building and we had 3 false alarms in 20 minutes. (of course we had all 16 films going after each false alarm)It was something about a smoke detector had construction dust in it.

Josh

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