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Lyle Romer
Phenomenal Film Handler

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From: Davie, FL, USA
Registered: May 2002


 - posted 08-11-2005 11:19 AM      Profile for Lyle Romer   Email Lyle Romer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Niether format will ever be given a chance because DIGITAL is the best!!!!!

Gimme a D.......Gimme an I.......

Seriously, it's too bad that the studio execs don't realize that things like this would increase their revenues. First of all, people would want to see movies in a theatre more than at home. Even at an average 50-50 split for the run, the studios get a higher amount per person than on DVD rentals, PPV and most likely even on DVD sales. Second, if the movie was enjoyable and memorable in the theatre, people will be more likely to either rent or buy the DVD when it comes out so the studio can "double dip."

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Paul Linfesty
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From: Bakersfield, CA, USA
Registered: Nov 1999


 - posted 08-11-2005 11:45 AM      Profile for Paul Linfesty   Email Paul Linfesty   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
With all the talk about Maxivision 48 projection conversions being far cheaper than digital conversion, the fact remains that the main cost studios are worried about is print cost, not projector cost. And Maxivision prints take up more film, not less. Presumably, shipping costs would me more as well. The industry is mostly interested in saving every last buck that they can.

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Lyle Romer
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True but Maxivision48 is capable of "shift on the fly" frame rates and can run at 24fps. If 24fps were used it would use 3/4 of the film of a Flat release. It can also project 48 fps only in scenes that require it.

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John Hawkinson
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Paul says, "With all the talk about Maxivision 48 projection conversions being far cheaper than digital conversion, the fact remains that the main cost studios are worried about is print cost, not projector cost."

Why do you think that, Paul? Do you have it on good authority?

I don't think that print cost is a major factor in studio thinking.

--jhawk

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Michael Coate
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I interviewed some folks re MaxiVision for a magazine article back in 1999. Six years later, the format's still not a reality.

While I've not personally seen any MaxiVision footage, everyone I know who has has said the image quality at 48fps is very good.

The format does have some drawbacks which have probably contributed to the format not being used...

-- as mentioned earlier in discussion, uses more film. At 3-perfs per frame, it actually uses less film on a per frame basis, but at 48fps utilizes more than standard 35mm. (Someone good at math figure it out for us...) Basically, MaxiVision is a 48fps version of 3-perf Super-35.

-- format was designed with the 1.78:1/1.85:1 ratios in mind; does not work well for scope.

-- since it uses a full aperture image, where would a DTS timecode be printed (or an optical track, for that matter)?

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Tao Yue
Expert Film Handler

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From: Princeton, NJ
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Well, you don't absolutely have to have SDDS tracks ...

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Larry Shaw
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From: Boston, MA, USA
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I don't believe there's a snowball's chance any of these new formats will go anywhere; its just economic reality.

I wish someone would try to just start releasing in 5/70 again. Why? .......
An existing, proven technology.
Image that beats the crap out of any D-cin or home theatre setups, especially w/ new film stocks.
Print cost now lower due to no need for mag tracks.
Theatre costs are lower for the same reason.
Even makes scratches and dirt of a given size less noticable.

If theares really wanted to fight to keep the audience from migrating to TV/DVD, this could be the way, instead of lowering quality with D-cin. Sort of like the TV scare of the 50's.

Larry

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