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Christopher Seo
Jedi Master Film Handler

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From: Los Angeles, CA
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I can sometimes be desperate... I'll go down into an auditorium and invite anyone who appears to have the slightest interest in the inkling of the idea that someone is up there in the booth. Mostly, it's been people I know. Does anyone have tips on how to most clearly demonstrate the operation of various mechanisms... projector, platter, analog sound? For example, I might remove the shutter housing on a Simplex (hand douser closed) to illustrate how the shutter and the intermittent work together.

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Michael Cunningham
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Hey Joe,

Thanks for the suggestion! Also, since I have all Strong equipment, the only illustrations in the manuals are grainy black-and-white photos. From a distance, they just look like grey blobs. Not a hint of interest to be found on this tour!!

One good way I have found to demonstrate platter operation Chris is to just grab the edge and let it wrap a couple times as the projector pulls. Of course, you'll want to do this with old trailers or something similar so as not to scratch a good print.

-Mike

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Randy Stankey
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I went to an IMAX and asked for a tour once. Now, being a projectionist myself, I regognize a guy's right to just say, 'no' if he doesn't want to but the treatment I got was piss-poor.

I called them up the day before and got a whole lot of run around. When I got there I got a big load of crap about it being a 'dust-free environment'. When the show started, there was this big tree branch doing flip-flops across the screen.

If only the guy whould have said no in the first place, I wouldn't have been so bent out of shape.

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Stephen Brown
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I was touring the USA in 1993 and was in LA. I was at the El Capitain seeing Beauty and the Beast (70mm) and Alladdin as a double feature. I really wanted to take some pictures of the foyer because of how lovely the place is. So I decided to do it officially by asking permision from the managment. Unfortunately he wouldn't let me take photos of the foyer, however he was more than kind enough to let me go into the booth and spend some time. I really thought I would have no chance seeing insode the booth but got a pleasant surprise..... So thanks to that manager and projectionist, whereever you are...

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Andrew D'Vrey
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In the state of Minnesota it is the law that you are permitted to freely inspect the kitchen of a restaurant before eating the food.

I love giving booth tours. Especially to children. In fact it is part of our birthday package for childrens parties we host.

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"And the monkey flips the switch."
- Major Don West, "Lost In Space"

Andrew D'Vrey
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Jason Burroughs
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Stephen,
I guess you were quite lucky.
Several projectionist have been fired from Loews Cineplex for doing just that. It seemed they were publishing "trade secrets" to hear LCE put it. That funny... I thought all theatres used projectors. Guess little did they know they were in "black ops".

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Randy Stankey
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When I was about 10 years old, I was one of those kids who would 'go to the concession stand' and try to sneak up to the balcony and look at the projectors. I've probably been tossed out of the Warner Theatre about 9,000,000 times. One time at the Star Drive-In (Now, it's been plowed under and turned into a strip-mall ) I was peeking in the booth door and the guy finally got tired of tossing my ass out and let me in. He showed me how the projectors worked and gave me an old clip of film and a burned carbon stub. It was probably the coolest 10 minutes of my life. Then he said, "Well, intermission's over and you gotta' get outta' here.", and out I went, happy as a pig eating slop!

More than 20 years later, here I am running those machines at that very same Warner Theatre AND two other 'new' cinemas as well! When you get right down to it, I guess that's why I almost always give booth tours.

PS: My parents didn't believe me when they asked me where I got the film. My dad went to the booth and asked the guy if I was lying or not. He was pissed that I didn't bring back popcorn, too!

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Kenneth H. Williams
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Sorry to hear that you folks have had so much trouble attempting to tour IMAX booths. Personally I have never been refused at any theater that I've asked at. I don't know where any of you are located at so maybe the "local" situation is different there than it is here. I even took a group of about a dozen people on a tour of one IMAX booth once...arranged in advance with the projectionist, of course.

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Randy Stankey
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Chris,

Showing ppl. how a proj works is all well and good. but MOST people are bored by it all. I simply say that the film goes in here, the light shines out here and goes through the film and out the lens.

If they are interested, they'll ask questions. Believe me, they'll ask!

My tricks are:

1) get this book, Eyewitness Book of Film -- it's a kids book with lots of pictures. It's good for adults too. You ought to be able to get it at any 1/2 decent bookstore with a kids dept. If you can, arrange it with your mgr. to get some passes and SWAP with the bookstore. Promise the bookstore mgr. you will tell people to come to his (her) store to get the book. The book retails for $12.95 (US) or something like that. Two passes ought to cover it. The little 'plug' ought to seal the deal, if the mgr. isn't stupid. -- I did that exact thing. I just tell all the kiddies to go to Barnes and Noble

2) Get a ZOETROPE and use that to demonstrate how movies 'work'. You can do the pass-swap thing if you want OR you can make your own out of a coffee can. I got one for Christmas one year so I dug it out of the closet. Now, I keep it and the book 'locked up' in the booth.

With these two 'tricks' I can entertain 20 kids at a time. I once had to do 100, in groups of course! -- Really!

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John Wilson
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Anyone from the forum who would like to have a look around our IMAX projection room is more than welcome.

I should point out that it's in Sydney, Australia but as everyone (yes, everyone) from around the world will be in Sydney for the Olympics this year (If you can believe the Olympic press dudes) then you can tour while you're here.

I always say yes to booth tours wherever I'm working. If someone has the curiosity, I've got the time.

PS. Sydney HAD to get the 2000 Olympics...Sydney 2000 is our Zip Code.

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Brad Miller
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A picture's worth a thousand words. How about sending us some pics for posting on the site???

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Reeve Byrne
Film Handler

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We have a couple of tours a year but the managers usually give them. They don't want to scare the cutomers by letting them run into the projectonist.

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John Wilson
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You want PICTURES? Does that mean you won't be coming?

Hmmm... I really should take some I suppose.
When I do I'll send them te ye.

ARRRRGGG!

(sorry)

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Tim Reed
Better Projection Pays

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Since I had peered into many booths from afar as a child, and given multitudes of excuses why I couldn't come inside for a better look (I was even cursed at and chased away by one senile old projectionist in '72); I vowed to let MY booth be open to anyone who wanted to see, when that day came.

Along about 1982, with the onslaught of VCRs, the public's wonder about projection booths diminished. Some even expressed contempt for theatres in general (I'm sure many of you will remember this transistion period).

During this period, I was working the top union job in my town, where I was strictly prohibited from receiving visitors. However, on one mid-show trip to the concession for a drink, a man with a small boy literally BEGGED me to show them the booth. After relating that, as much as I would like to, I (a) was forbidden to do so and, (b) if anything happened and the boy did something to shut the show down, it would take at least 5 minutes (because of a particular lamp I had) to get it started again. He assured me he would watch his son like a hawk, and keep the child's hands at bay.

Well, you guessed it. No sooner had his feet touched the linoleum, did the boy stick his hand out, grab the takeup reel and kill the show! I sank. If this got back to the local, I could be in deep trouble; there were plenty of other guys in line who wanted that job!

To top it off, instead of being apologetic, the guy actually got cocky with me!!! I announced the tour was over and ordered him to leave immediately. He seemed to be proud his son had stopped a show being viewed by several hundred people. The guy was pathetically giggling walking back downstairs!

I did not even entertain the idea of giving booth tours, for many years after that incident.



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Ari Nordström
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It's interesting and a bit scary to read about projectionists getting fired because of a booth tour. None of the various companies I've worked for ever threatened me with something like that. Quite the contrary, in fact. It's always been me that wants to minimize the number of tours, not them.

But, as someone pointed out earlier in this thread, giving a booth tour is like returning a favor. I once wanted one, too, so I can't really deny anyone a tour.

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