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Masao Garcia
Film Handler
Posts: 34
From: Lancaster, CA, USA
Registered: Oct 1999
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posted 01-11-2000 06:39 PM
Hey, hey, I never said that the Mac was the most evil thing in the world. I'm not biased. I just tell it how it is. I've used Macs before, and they just have a slower feeling than a PC. MacOS cannot multitask as well as Windows 98/NT and it just feels slow. I know that G4s are as good as, or better than an equivalently clocked Intel/AMD CPU. The G4 450s can keep up with Athlon 750s or something. Granted, I've never used a G4-based Mac (I've used some powerPC 60XX variant or something), but MacOS hasn't changed much. When I browse the web, I have many windows open at once. I found this to be a big no no on the Macs I've used (w/ 90MB of RAM) while doing simple editing in Photoshop. With my PC (w/ 96MB of RAM), I find I can open up lots of IE windows and do simple photo editing in Photoshop, play an MP3/DVD, and rant about Macs/PCs, with no problems. Bottom line, I like them both, but find MacOS to be of much lesser quality than Windows 98/NT.
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Joe Redifer
You need a beating today
Posts: 12859
From: Denver, Colorado
Registered: May 99
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posted 01-11-2000 09:50 PM
You used a 680x0 machine? Or Power PC? Both of those are fairly old. I can see why you thought it was slow. They were. It can also depend how the user had his memory set up. On a Mac, you can assign how much memory (RAM) each program is allowed to take up. Perhaps the Macs you have used had the partitions set way to high and it got sluggish and crashed. Default settings usually work best except for graphic intensive programs. And "virtual memory" was probably on, which uses hard disc space as a temporary RAM storage. If this is on the computer will run two to three times slower. Not to fuel an everlasting debate, but I edited each and every one of the pictures in the Picture Warehouse on this site with AOL, Netscape (refuse to use IE), PhotoShop, SoundApp, JPEGView, and Painter 4 open. I only have 128 megs of RAM. No probs. I am using OS 8.1 and have had 0 problems. Windows just feels clumsy to me. And it looks very very blah. Oh yeah, and I can run Windows on my Mac for those few files that I need a PC for. I can drag files to the PC desktop from the Mac desktop and vice-versa. Not quite as fast as a real PC, but it gets the job done. Also, I don't like using what "everyone else" is using. There is something to be said for nonconforming, just as long as it doesn't ruin productivity, which in my case, it doesn't.
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Steve Guttag
We forgot the crackers Gromit!!!
Posts: 12814
From: Annapolis, MD
Registered: Dec 1999
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posted 01-12-2000 07:50 PM
Gee this is a differnt type of topic for this forum but here it goes...The winner is obviously a Macintosh. I have a 12 year old one and this brand spankin new iMac DV SE (sorry Randy, my old SE/30 was running on 20MB of RAM, the iMac DV SE comes with 128MB (double the standard DV)). Who ever thinks the Windos OS is better than the Mac OS is nuts, it is bad knock off of the Mac. But for those Windows/platter heads out there....i have Virtual PC...runs Win98 at the equivalent of a Pentium at 200MHz on my Mac, and it "boots" the Virtual PC with Win98 running inside of 15 seconds...can't do that on a real one that costs many times as much. So there! <sticking tongue out> Steve ------------------
"Old projectionists never die, they just changeover!"
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Randy Stankey
Film God
Posts: 6539
From: Erie, Pennsylvania
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 01-12-2000 09:56 PM
My old roommate is a 'professional' software engineer. As far as I can tell, he's in about the top 10 people in the world as far as Mac programming goes. I used to be one of his Beta testers and got to try to break his programs before he shipped them. That could be a lot of fun at times.One of his projects was for Articulate Systems, which made voice digitizers for Macs before they all had built in mics. My all time best Beta test story is this.... I programmed in a voice command to open a pre-prepared word processing document and FAX it to a pre-determined phone number.... The command sequence was "computer... PIZZA"
(The two part command prevents false triggering.) The word processing doc. was "Please send a Large pizza and a 6-pak of Coke to 123 Anystreet...) The phone number was for the FAX-in order line to my favorite pizza shop. Essentially, when my friends came over, I'd ask, "Do you want some pizza?" Then I'd walk to the computer and say, "Computer... Pizza." It'd make a confirmation beep and fire off the FAX. 20 minutes later, the door bell would ring. This was almost 10 years ago. I don't know of any PC that could have done that (without serious dicking around) and I know of few that could do it today.
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