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Ari Nordström
Master Film Handler

Posts: 283
From: Göteborg, Sweden
Registered: Jan 2000


 - posted 01-13-2000 04:47 AM      Profile for Ari Nordström   Email Ari Nordström   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Lesser bone-head story:

One of the casuals of a now-closed premiere house once attempted to clean a dusty print by soaking a towel with water and then rewinding the film at top speed while, um, _cleaning_ the print with said towel...

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Reeve Byrne
Film Handler

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From: Anchorage, Ak USA
Registered: Jan 2000


 - posted 01-13-2000 08:12 AM      Profile for Reeve Byrne   Email Reeve Byrne   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
This stuff is too funny. someone should write a book aboiut this stuff.

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Jason Burroughs
Jedi Master Film Handler

Posts: 654
From: Allen, TX
Registered: Jun 99


 - posted 01-13-2000 11:51 AM      Profile for Jason Burroughs   Email Jason Burroughs   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Annother "bone head" move I remembered...

After a manager built up a print of "Nell", and was screening it he discovered that he had placed R4 on backwards. So he let the rest of the reel run though no big deal so he could reverse it. Here is where the "bone head" part comes in... once the reel had run through he stopped the projector, broke the splice and proceeded to pull reel 4 off ONTO THE FLOOR!!! by hand. This was a brand new theatre so he knew the carpet would be full of construction dirt (even though we vacumed nightly) so upon loading the film back onto the platter he decided to clean it, using a DRY PAPER TOWEL!! Needless to say that reel looked like complete crap. This manager also INSISTED that we shoepolish reel changes.

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Brad Miller
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From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall)
Registered: May 99


 - posted 01-13-2000 04:41 PM      Profile for Brad Miller   Author's Homepage   Email Brad Miller       Edit/Delete Post 
Jason,

Is this the same manager who had to have a splicer by EVERY projector "for when the film breaks"??? I'll bet it is.

If it's that same guy, he literally couldn't make it through more than one 70mm presentation per week without the film breaking at a minimum of once! I know all the assistant managers always cheered when "it didn't break". They went through thousands of passes just because he was such a firm believer in "the 2 finger loop". (Of course, the man had HUGE fingers and his loops slapped all over the inside of the projector.)

I always felt for the poor AW3s at that theater. When he spliced he would punch the splicer with all of his weight to the point I'd swear his feet would jump off of the floor...because he ALWAYS spliced with the splicer on the edge of a platter deck. To this day, those axles are all bent to crap.

He also thought the only way to remove a trailer was to pull it by hand through the brain onto the floor. At that point he would carry the glob of film to the rewind bench and start untangling it onto a core.

That was back in the acetate days too. Geez, I'll bet he's turned over his fair share of platters and consoles with polyester!

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Jason Burroughs
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From: Allen, TX
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Brad, Yup that's him!

Last I heard he's no longer in the movie business though.

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Stephen Winner
Film Handler

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From: Richmond,VA
Registered: Jun 99


 - posted 01-13-2000 09:58 PM      Profile for Stephen Winner   Author's Homepage   Email Stephen Winner   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
About the dumbest thing I did was a few months ago was when I stopped the projector without closing the dowser. Likewise, my nose caught the burning smell as the 6.5KW arc lamp was buring up the film!

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Scott Norwood
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From: Boston, MA. USA (1774.21 miles northeast of Dallas)
Registered: Jun 99


 - posted 01-13-2000 10:30 PM      Profile for Scott Norwood   Author's Homepage   Email Scott Norwood   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Film breaks? Ugh! Except for a really bad lab splice (which should have been fixed during print inspection), I've never figured out what causes film breaks in normal operation. I've never experienced one personally (and I've run a lot of beat-up repertory acetate prints). I suppose that grossly misadjusted tension on the takeup or feed arm might cause it, but that would be more likely to cause torn perfs (and wouldn't happen in a non-reel-to-reel setup, either).

Stephen - you don't have fire shutters at the Byrd?

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Dave Williams
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From: Salt Lake City, UT, USA
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 - posted 01-14-2000 12:42 AM      Profile for Dave Williams   Author's Homepage   Email Dave Williams   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
As for boneheads I would have to go with my Dad. He does some occasional handywork for me and decided to take his shot at projection. He is pretty good at picking up mechanical things well and not screwing them up. HOWEVER... He thought he would try a ... ahem.... NEW WAY... of tearing and building up movies. He build some lame ass contraption so he could tear down a movie that was on the bottom or top platter. Not only did it totally thrash the print, it also pulled the breakdown table right into the platter as it was running another movie. There were pieces of film and wood all over the place. Needless to say I was able to live the american dream, I fired my own dad. WOOOHOOOO.....

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John Wilson
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From: Sydney, Australia.
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I remember walking through the foyer late one night and the barmaid/candy girl had a whole line of beer bottles lined up along the bar. She had opened up about 15 of them when I stopped. I looked around for the customers thinking there must be a small after-movie party going on, but I couldn't see anyone in the foyer except for this girl and myself.

"Why are you opening all those beers?" I asked her as she moved on to the 20th. "Are there some customers coming out?"

"No!" she said. (duh) "It's supposed to be busy at the matinee tomorrow so I'm saving time for then".

It ended up there was a small party at the end of the show after all that.

(Well, you can't go wasting good beer now, can you?) (hic)

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Bruce McGee
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From: Asheville, NC USA... Nowhere in Particular.
Registered: Aug 1999


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This is a similar thing, only in 16mm.

When I worked in TV, we had the OLD RCA TP-6 telecine projectors with one reel at the top and one just above the floor. We were running a 2000' reel loaded with "The Towering Inferno" In those days, we would transfer the film to tape so we wouldn't have to physically cut the print. Anyway, it was late at night, and the projectors were in another room. I loaded the reel and cued it up. Then I went back into the control room to start the 2" VTR and start the recording. I started the tape, then started the projector. I heard it start from the other room, and I saw the film running on the monitor. I checked the sound, and sat down to continue doing all the other stuff I had to do.

Anyway, at the end of the reel, I stopped the tape, stopped the projector, and walked into the projection room. I found 2000' of "Inferno" in a heap on the filthy floor. The take-up reel had split and I didn't hear it. The bad thing is that my "helper" tried to pick-up the lump of film--to keep it from getting dirtier.... He thoroughly tangled it up.

We ended up paying for a replacement R3-4 of the movie. That is R2 on 16mm. Twentieth Century TV actually inspected the print and saw what our station had done to their only new print (at the time) and billed us.

From then on, I instructed our guys to keep an eye on the projectors while we were dubbing at night. There were always people around during the day.

I transferred around 5000 features to tape during my stay there.....

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William Dickson
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From: Riverside, Ca. USA
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Shortly after starting at the theater I currently work at I was informed that the bottom platter on one of our projectors didn't work.(Alpha Platter Systems). After a little investigation I found a round dent had been notched out of the rubber wheel that spins the platter. I called the projectionist who worked the night before to find out what happened. (That's my job.) He told a story something like this:
"I was building up Duece Bigalow and you know how sometimes as the reel is running onto the platter you go down stairs for a cigarette."(No I don't so keep explaining.)"Well when I came back up there was this awful smell and didn't know where it was coming from. When I got closer to the platter I was building at I heard the whine of a platter motor working way too hard. Well the tail didn't release from the reel and the make-up table was up against the platter."(He didn't say it slammed into the platters but we know it did.)The drive shaft on the motor had burned away the notch in the rubber wheel and the platter was unusable. That cigarette cost our company a pretty penny. What's more bone-headed:him doing this or him telling me the truth the first time? Actually I'm very glad he was honest but wanted to hear a good story.

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Christopher A Kerr
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From: Oakville, Ontario, Canada
Registered: Sep 1999


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And then there was my asst. mgr, who when building up a print, discovered that he had put the reels on 1,2,3,5. He had reel 4 left over and immediatly realized his mistake. Instead of rewinding the reel back onto a reel, he moved the rewind table out of the way, got a big cardboard box and spun (by hand no less) then whole reel into the box. He then moved the box out of the way, brought the rewind table back over, attached reel 4, moved the table again and brought the box back. Now for the fun part. The end of the film had gotten lost somewhere in the tangled mess of film inside the box.........

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Ari Nordström
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From: Göteborg, Sweden
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We're currently screening old Swedish film classic chosen by the director Ingmar Bergman, who has also picked a selection of short films to be run before each feature.

When I arrived at the theatre about an hour before last Sunday's screening, thinking that an hour would be more than enough to prepare a couple of archive reels and a short, I was told by the manager of these special screenings that this particular "short" was actually a short sequence, a monologue by the director of the old classic, that was part of a seven-reel feature. The Swedish Film Institute had helpfully sent us the whole film, not just the right reel.

My first question to the manager was, obviously, what reel the sequence belonged to. He didn't know. What does the scene look like? He didn't know. Does anyone know? Well, yes, one of the other managers might, but she was at a restaurant somewhere, eating lunch with the guest director who was to speak to the audience before the show. They'd be back in time for the show, not before. Can we phone the Swedish Film Institute and ask? No, not on a Sunday, they're closed.

The manager, looking rather worried by now, thought for a moment, and then asked if I could "simply fast-forward the film and look the scene up"...

Sigh.

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Chris Wootten
Film Handler

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From: Moonlit Cinema, RAAF Tindal, N.T. Australia
Registered: Dec 1999


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I was helping thread up the projectors (BauerU3) during training, and forgot to tweek the nuts that hold the reels onto the spindle.......as had been told to me NEVER to forget...about fifteen minutes of the show had passed when my instructor and I heard a loud bang......without looking he said..."you'd better get and clean your mess up...and be quick..." I rushed into the booth to find the reel lying on the floor and the BIGGEST pile of film I had ever seen.......DONT PANIC...DONT PANIC.... Bob just laughes and told me to carefully lift the reel up (6000') and give it to him and that I was to feed him the film without it getting tangled, and ...THANK GOODNESS..notdamaged... he placed the reel on the rewinder and varied the speed to keep up to my handling of the "mess", and the speed of the projector... It all ended well with no damage and a smirky "Itold u so from Bob"
After that experience I always tweek the nuts and try to impress on my trainees the same "need to tweek"...

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