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Topic: We're getting a digital projector for 'Dinosaur'
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John Pytlak
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From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922
Registered: Jan 2000
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posted 04-25-2000 10:05 AM
Dustin:To their credit, the "split screen" is how Texas Instruments showed their DLP Cinema projector at ShoWest in March. Most felt that film looked better for tone scale and color in the clips from films like "Snow Falling on Cedars" and "American Beauty". The film images were very good for sharpness, steadiness and cleanliness. If you sat in the front section of the Celebrity Theatre, you noticed the pixels and "jaggies" on the digital projector. But IMHO, the prototype TI DLP Cinema projector did "win" for the digitally originated "Toy Story 2" material. For the "Toy Story 2" clips, Texas Instruments chose to show a "typical" worn release print that had severe base-side scratches, hoping to leave the impression that this was the norm. Rumor has it that TI asked Boston Light & Sound not to use their "top of the line" Kinoton film projector for the demo, but BL&S did a fine job with an older Century projector. Perhaps Larry Shaw can verify. ------------------ John P. Pytlak, Senior Technical Specialist Worldwide Technical Services, Entertainment Imaging Eastman Kodak Company Research Labs, Building 69, Room 7419 Rochester, New York, 14650-1922 USA Tel: 716-477-5325 Fax: 716-722-7243 E-Mail: john.pytlak@kodak.com
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John Walsh
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posted 04-25-2000 01:50 PM
"Texas Instruments chose to show a "typical" worn release print that had severe base-side scratches..""Rumor has it that TI asked Boston Light & Sound not to use their "top of the line" Kinoton film projector for the demo..." This (if true) is the kind of stuff that drives me crazy. If theater owners would just take care of what they already got... I mean, I not totally opposed to all-electronic production and distribution. I'm just tired of rigged tests.
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John Walsh
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posted 04-26-2000 08:16 AM
Yes- I'm sorry... My use of "rigged" was probably a poor choice of word. But I want to compare apples to apples. If TI has pulled out all the stops to make their projector look good, why can't "film" be allowed to do the same? While I might agree with allowing a Century, (rather than a Kinoton)- how pre-scratched was the print? (rhetorical question.) Who's to say that what a "standard" scratched print looks like?I think distributors are now more interested in controlling their product than improving it- somewhat like Microsoft. While still a bit far away, they can "smell" the advantages of digital distribution for piracy, preventing box office "undercounts,' and other information logging. (There also seems to be a standoff over who's going to pay for it.) I wouldn't be surprised if the majors have a loose "gentleman's agreement" to not release anything new in 70mm- it might look too good and de-rail e-cinema. Anyway, I just get cranky without my coffee, so sorry about that....!
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Greg Anderson
Jedi Master Film Handler

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From: Ogden Valley, Utah
Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 04-26-2000 09:39 AM
So... how about this for digital cinema? You know how the big movies open in the big house at the multi-plex and then, within a couple of weeks, they get passed down to the small house? And, by then, perhaps the print is scratched... or whatever?Why not turn all the small houses into e-cinema houses. That way, we get the best of both worlds and the public WILL accept it. I mean, if we're to assume that a "typical" print is trashed after a couple of weeks anyway... Or... the distributors could give the multiplex one film print (for the big house) and one "digital" print (for the small house). They could open on the same day that way. Then, when the grosses go down a bit, they just drop the film print from the big house. This way, the distributor only has to make half as many film prints (and they save money) and the digital system is only showing on the smaller screen (which makes the customers think the quality is outstanding) and... would this not make everyone happy? If you want to see the film version, just make sure you see the movie during its first couple of weeks.
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Zach Tomcich
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From: Berkeley, California, USA
Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 05-05-2000 12:53 AM
quote: Originally posted by Mike Blakesley: Paul's comment about the TI DLP standee got me thinking. I read in Film Journal about how when a film plays in two houses, one digital and one "film," the digital house has WAY more patronage. They are trumpeting this as an advantage of digital. Well, HELLO!! If you put up a big sign saying "see it in digital," OF COURSE the people are going to want to check that out, what with digital being the "buzz word" of the new millenium!
I'll always go out of my way to experience digital projection. This has nothing to do with any buzz words about our new digital society. The reason i prefer digital projection is that it just looks better. More accurately, it looks a sh!t-load better! My eyes are sensative to screen flicker. I can usually see dirty prints, scratches, and just the annoying flickering of the projector during bright scenes. DLP got rid of this. Even though the resoluation was not as sharp as film, i think the overall presentation was vastly superior in DLP. I think trying to argue that film projection is better by comparing resolution ratios is like trying to compare LPs to CDs using frequency responces. I was so impressed with the smooth, flicker free and scratch free movie projection that i'll go way out of my way to experience it for any other movie. As an avid movie goer, i look forward to the demise of film projection. -Zach Tomcich aka Ziggy Audio Engineer Berkeley Repertory Theatre
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