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Topic: Question about those Slide Ads
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Chris Erwin
Expert Film Handler
Posts: 195
From: Olive Hill,KY
Registered: Oct 1999
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posted 04-21-2000 06:27 PM
Sara,If done right a slide presentation could be neat in your case. Use fades between slides. Get the art/photo people to make your slides, and give em' credit. (free slides and good PR for your theater) If you were running a commerical for profit moive theater....NO SLIDES!! I love to hate going to my local mutli and seing these puke presentations of slides. Dim,dumb,and dull-but dollars!! The all-mighty dollar.... --Chris
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John Walsh
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From: Connecticut, USA, Earth, Milky Way
Registered: Oct 1999
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posted 04-22-2000 03:15 PM
We have two types of slide projectors, both made by Kodak. One is a "Medalist AT" and the other is a "Ektagraphic III A." I suspect they are pretty much the same. They use a EXY bulb which is 250 watts. The "EXY" is a standard "number" for these types of bulbs, and are avaiable from several companies (ours are from Osram.) They project an apx. 12ft by 12ft image about 50-60 feet away with an "OK" brightness (but there are no lights on or near the screen.)I don't know if this is the same lens that came with the projector. Most of the lenses that come with slide projectors have a zoom feature to fit it to your screen. But, they are usually not meant for the larger size screens used in theaters. You should find out what lens will fit your theater before you buy. As I said, we get about 3 weeks out of a bulb. That's from about 1.5 hours on Monday-Friday, 3.5 hours on Sat & Sun for a total of about 43.5 hours of bulb life. Note that the filliment in the bulb becomes very brittle after the first time it's lit, so it's very important not to move or jiggle the projector. Otherwise it will break, and have to be replaced. If you were thinking of setting the projector up, then removing it to store somewhere after each night, you will have to replace the bulb much more often. There is a fader unit with our projectors. It is made by a company called, "Entré." It is a model "D100 Single Projector Fader / Dissolve." It plugs in the back of the projector. Apx Prices: From: http://www.cambridgeworld.com/projector_viewer.htm I don't know if these people are good or what; I just wanted to get some idea of prices.
Kodak Ektagraphic IIIA $339.95
KODAK CAROUSEL MEDALIST $266.95
ENTRE DISSOLVE D100 $138.95
Maybe I'm the only one, but these projectors have worked OK for us. I find that, out of 10 new projectors, maybe one will develop problems shortly after use. Usually, the tray feeder jams up. Also, the socket for the bulb gets messed-up (from bulbs being changed so often.) Usually, with a little TLC you can get them running again. My suggestion is that if you buy one, turn it on right away and make it step through slides (with and without the bulb on) to find out right away if it's going to last. I mean, don't leave it on for a week constantly, but maybe for 5 hours one day, another 5 the next, so if it dies, it's within the warrenttee period.
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Lance C. McFetridge
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Posts: 135
From: Penn Yan, New York
Registered: Jul 99
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posted 04-24-2000 12:44 PM
Sara,
I own a three screen theatre and after much consideration, installed slide advertising. The boost to my gross income was incredible. I use Kodak projectors, I have a timer for them that shows the slide for 13 seconds, which research showed was the time needed to grasp the patron's attention. I use an FHS bulb, get about two weeks out of it, and make a nice profit. Any other theatre owners may agree that it all boils down to what it takes to keep a quality presentation, and pay the bills.
Email me if you would like detailed information on what I do here, it isn't hard to get up and running.
lance
oh, I have it tied into Gord Mcleod's automation and it is fool proof
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Lance C. McFetridge
Expert Film Handler
Posts: 135
From: Penn Yan, New York
Registered: Jul 99
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posted 04-24-2000 03:45 PM
Brad,
No, I do not seem to have a focus problem. But, the throw is only in the area of 56 feet. I purchased these projectors from a firm that does screen advertising, but did not want to come into my market because of limited population. This company had done research on attention span( or so they told me) and sold me the timers based on the research. They claim that if it is shorter than 13 seconds the slide is not effective as an ad. I do change out the slides on a regular basis so that we have good quality ads on the screen.
Of course this company also told me to take the heat obsorbing glass out of the lamp unit if I wanted more light on the screen, which I didn't do. I have had these projectors for 4 years, had to replace one lamp holder which Kodak sent me right away, and that is the extent of the problems. Oh, and they are ektagraphic III's. I justify it that these babies allowed me to have Gord come down and install a Panestereo with DTS, And I never hear complaints about the ads, just good comments about the sound!!!
lance
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Bruce McGee
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Posts: 1776
From: Asheville, NC USA... Nowhere in Particular.
Registered: Aug 1999
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posted 04-25-2000 07:38 AM
My business has 25 Kodak Ektagraphic AMT machines, and 5 Kodak 4600's that I got for pennies at a school auction. They are used almost daily by knowing operators, and idiots. The only problems I ever have are lamps being installed wrong, the lens being installed wrong, or the carousel tray being broken because the operator tried to force it off of the unit.The AMT units, for some reason, seem to be louder running than the 4600's. Must be a different fan assembly in the AMT's? I use my 4600's at Biltmore Estate functions mostly. Their gatherings seem to be more upscale. The black housing on the 4600 vs.the grey housing on the AMT looks better with all my black stands, drapes, and equipment. Our AMT's are 12 years old and only a couple have been opened for repairs--usually because of operator errors, or something being jammed into the fan. The lamp sockets are getting rough on a few of the machines. I have bright-light modules for most of them, but I really dont notice a big difference in the brightness. Who knows how much use the 4600's have had? I got them because of the auto-slide focus feature that seems to work really well. They were nasty looking until I took a small brush to the slide changer area. We use Apollo EXR lamps that are more inexpensive (cheaper) than GE's. I dont replace them very often, but I do always include a spare in the carrying case. If the projetor jams, 9 times out of 10, it is a bad slide tray that is warped, or bent. I've never had the constant change problem that was mentioned above. I like using the Ektagraphic, and 4600's. I dont love them, but I do like them. I dont like the TORX screws. Who's idea was that? Trying to keep me out of it, I bet! (smiley face goes here)
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