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Dustin Mitchell
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1865
From: Mondovi, WI, USA
Registered: Mar 2000


 - posted 04-29-2000 11:41 PM      Profile for Dustin Mitchell   Email Dustin Mitchell   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Being a Carmike slave myself I should take exception to the comment about Carmike theatres, but I can't. Our theatre (Oakwood 12, Eau Claire, WI) is in pretty decent shape. A minor problem here and there but overall good presentation and a great staff. But I know that not all, or even the majority, of Carmikes are that way. A lot of it has to do with the corporate policy, but a lot more has to do with some very shitty GM's. I've had personal experience with 2 screwheads that fudged up bad enough to get fired.

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Scott Magie
Film Handler

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From: St. Albans, VT USA
Registered: Mar 2000


 - posted 04-30-2000 08:47 PM      Profile for Scott Magie   Email Scott Magie   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Sorry to divert your thread, Daryl. Perhaps we should start two new ones... "Ellen Theatre, Bozeman" and "How much I hate Carmike, by Scott Magie". :P

I was the assistant at the Ellen for awhile (while also trying to manage the booth at Campus Square). This was AFTER the Peacemaker incident, I assure you. But then I moved to Missoula to run the Village 6, so yes, I know the Wilma... but not well. I only saw "Run, Lola, Run" "Sweet and Lowdown" and "The Cradle Will Rock" there. None of these films had any trailers on them (and I'm notoriously late to everything), Lola played at non-sync level for the first 5-10 minutes until I went out and complained (I was the only one there), and I don't know what happened during Lowdown, but the film stopped for quite awhile midway after the tail of a reel sputtered across the screen. I didn't think they had changeovers there but maybe they do and they missed it. So apparently it needs some work too.

I wish someone would buy these old theatres and DO something with them. Be different. Dress in tuxedos and usher people personally to their seats. Show newsreels. Something!

Sometimes the janitor at the Ellen plays the organ as people enter on an opening night. Carmike doesn't pay him to do that, though. He just loves to do it. Good ol' Wes... he even SHOWERS on those days! :O

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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From: Music City
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 - posted 05-01-2000 09:45 AM      Profile for Mark Gulbrandsen   Email Mark Gulbrandsen   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Sounds like a neat place there in Bozeman. Carmike also has the Villa Theater here in Salt Lake City. This is SLC's original 3 strip Cinerama house!! The huge 80 plus foot wide screen is still there and so are the booths but Carmike doesn't have a clue as to how to run or book it. Mission to Mars has been there since it was released. Although the outside of the building is fairly well maintained there is way too much neglect going on here.
Mark

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Harry Robinson
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From: Franklin Tennessee
Registered: Dec 1999


 - posted 05-01-2000 11:22 AM      Profile for Harry Robinson   Email Harry Robinson   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
This place is on the other side of the country from you, but it sounds like a bargin. It's the old Capri Theater in beautiful downtown Shelbyville Tennessee, home of Tennessee Walking Horses (a big deal down here). Old Clyde Jacobs is a great guy who just wants to see the theater continue on in it's tradition. Every high school kid in this small southern town had his first job working for Clyde, and they all still love him.

About once a week the local schools come in for special screenings at 4 bucks a kid and Clyde gives them each a small popcorn and drink when they walk in the door. It's really like stepping back in time.

Health problems are causing him to have to retire. He told me he would make arrangements for someone to just take it over and pay him as you go. Or he'll take 150K for the place including all the gear, which includes some beautifully maintained old centurys. You'd have to call him for the details.
Incidently, he's still in mono. The old place used to be a single screen, but he converted the balcony into a separate room. Personnaly I'd like to see it restored to a single screen. I'd drive the 1 1/2 hours just to go to the movies in an old-fashioned theater. It needs new decor, etc. It was last redecorated in 1968 (orange and gold everywhere).

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Daryl Lund
Film Handler

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From: Chehalis,WA, USA
Registered: Feb 2000


 - posted 05-08-2000 03:59 PM      Profile for Daryl Lund   Email Daryl Lund   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Thanks for replies. I was in hope of finding a theatre on the west coast so I could put my good friend Kenny Layton to work. I feel sorry for Kenny. He has so much money ,that He just spends all his time on the front porch watching the girls go by.

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Stephen Winner
Film Handler

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From: Richmond,VA
Registered: Jun 99


 - posted 05-08-2000 08:48 PM      Profile for Stephen Winner   Author's Homepage   Email Stephen Winner   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Richmond, VA has a nice 1940's Art Deco styled single screen house in Highland Springs that's waiting for somebody to strike the arc's and pop the popcorn. The theater was renovated about 10-12 years ago, but was never able to recoup the cost, and closed a couple years ago. It's still being kept up in maintenace, but is now up for sale

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Charles Everett
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 - posted 08-09-2002 04:41 PM      Profile for Charles Everett   Email Charles Everett   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Clearview Cinemas, New Jersey-based chain put up for sale yesterday by Cablevision Systems.

Clearview has a lot of dumps and chop jobs -- but it actually has a few nice theaters and a few desirable locations.

Their nice theaters are:

  • The Ziegfeld, 1,000-seat movie palace on 54th Street in midtown Manhattan. I saw the restored version of Vertigo at the Ziegfeld under Cineplex Odeon ownership. When Cineplex Odeon merged with Loews in 1998 the US Justice Dept. filed an antitrust claim and Loews was forced to spin off some Manhattan theaters. That's how Clearview got the Ziegfeld.
  • Chelsea, a 9-plex built by Cineplex Odeon on Eighth Avenue in Manhattan. A nice pre-stadium multiplex in a famous neighborhood. Also picked up by Clearview in the Cineplex Odeon-Loews merger.
  • Headquarters Plaza, a 10-plex in Morristown NJ built by AMC in the early 90's. My first visit to an AMC was in 1995 when the Headquarters Plaza ran the arthouse picture Basquiat. Clearview picked up this theater in 1998 when AMC had cash flow problems.

    Their desirable locations are:

  • Clairidge, Montclair NJ. Old Cinerama theater, later a 3-screen neighborhood house, now a 6-plex that plays every upmarket/arthouse hit.
  • Succasunna Cinema 10 and Parsippany Cinema 12, both in Morris County NJ. Clearview actually dominates Morris County (north of where I live). When AMC closes a nearby 6-plex after Labor Day these 2 multiplexes on busy highways will get more business. I saw The English Patient, before its Oscar wins, at Succasunna pre-Clearview.
  • 62nd & Broadway, across from the Lincoln Plaza arthouse. This single-screen was -- you guessed it -- picked up in the Loews-Cineplex Odeon merger. Now the de facto Fox house for the Upper West Side, the 62nd & Broadway just opened The Good Girl.


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  • Mike Olpin
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    From: Dallas, TX
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     - posted 08-10-2002 12:17 AM      Profile for Mike Olpin   Email Mike Olpin   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
    Here a a few in the San Diego area:

    1. Glasshouse 6 (former UA)
    Crummy 6 plex in need of serious upgrades. In the same shopping center as a Chuck E. Cheeze and ULTRAZONE ( a popular laser tag center ) . More than ample parking in a 3 level parking garage. It is near the Sports Arena & Sea World. Faces competition from 3 theatres in Mission Valley, about 10 minutes up interstate 8. ( a 20 plex, 18, and a 7). Although nearby, it lacks direct access from the freeway and is not very accessable. It's also a seedy part of town. I have not driven by that area recently, and I'm not sure if it is still there. It clossed around 98.

    2. El Cajon 8 (formerly Krikorian, than a Regal)
    THX Certified in 2 of it's 8 auditoriums, this theatre opened it's doors as the cornerstone of a new shopping center in the early 90's, making it the newest rundown theatre in the area. Did very well as a Krikorian, than sold to Regal around the time "cable Guy" came out. When Regal compleated the nearby Parkway Plaza 18, it conveted the El Cajon into a dollar theatre. Although it did verry good buisiness as a dollar theatre, Regal decide that it was hurting buisiness for the new Parkway Plaza, and closed it a few months later. The shopping center died soon after. It has remained boarded up, but as far as i know, everything inside is still in excellent condition. I think a church is interested in buying it. The area does have a few gang problems, to my understanding.


    If you want to open any of theese drop me a line, and i'll be glad to help.

    By the way, Mark ( ), in reference to Boise theatres said "Edwards unfortunately owns the place."
    ----I see nothing wrong with this.

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    Mathew Molloy
    Master Film Handler

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    From: The Santa Cruz Mountains
    Registered: Nov 2000


     - posted 08-10-2002 02:36 AM      Profile for Mathew Molloy   Email Mathew Molloy   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
    The Aero Theatre in Santa Monica is looking for a new owner.
    I know the community wants it to stick around but the current landlord has raised the rent to such extremes the current tennant owes some $60K in back rent, etc. It is a cool art-deco single screen house just waiting for someone to come in and fix 'er up.

    Supposedly what's-is-name with Sundance considered taking the place over but had issues with either the landlord and/or the lack of parking. I'm sure you can read up on it by searching google for it.

    And in my opinion, I think that's why the landlord hiked the rent and then lost out.

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    Frank Angel
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    From: Brooklyn NY USA
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     - posted 08-10-2002 09:06 AM      Profile for Frank Angel   Author's Homepage   Email Frank Angel   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
    A year or so ago UA closed the only Dimension 150 theatre out in Syossett Long Isand NY. It was beautifully kept up never mulitplexed and it has a big parking lot. I undertand that it never owned the building. Possibly the owner is still looking for a tenant, or may want to sell it. As the song goes, If I were a rich man.... But I an not; if I were, I probably wouldn't be for very long as I would be buying unprofitable old theatres that theatre chains don't want to run....and I wouldn't be a rich man for long.

    In Brooklyn, the city still owns the Loews Kings -- a magnificent single screen theatre that simply closed, luckily before it was mulitplexed or physically damaged. It only needs someone to go in an promise the city to run it and do what is needed to operate it and commit to a certian number of years occupancy.

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    Mark Ogden
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    From: Little Falls, N.J.
    Registered: Jun 99


     - posted 08-10-2002 10:22 AM      Profile for Mark Ogden   Email Mark Ogden   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
    Sorry to say, Frank, that you're too late on the Syossett 150. I was by there the other day and the building has been totally gutted. It looks like it's being remodeled for offices.

    Heavy sigh.

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    Thomas Procyk
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    From: Royal Palm Beach, FL, USA
    Registered: Feb 2002


     - posted 08-10-2002 03:57 PM      Profile for Thomas Procyk   Email Thomas Procyk   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
    There are a couple nice theaters in my area for lease/sale as well. (Orlando, FL)

    The UC7 Cinema. Right across the street from the University, the only word that can describe this place is "cute!" Used to be a 6, was owned by Lytchfield (sp?) then Cobb (I think) then Regal, who turned the game room into a 7th theater and really cleaned up the marquee. Now, it sits closed because of a Regal 20 and a 22 less than 5 minutes away. To my knowledge, all equipment is still present, and it would make an AWESOME discount house being that we're all poor college kids who can't afford $8 a ticket. Other businesses in the plaza have "Taken over" the marquee though. Very sad. If only I had the cash....

    Fashion Square 6. The only remaining theater in this area that still had 70mm capability. Former GCC, then AMC, now closed because it was in competition with AMC's shittier but bigger 8-plex around the corner.

    The only other theater that I know of that had 70mm was the "Regal Park 11" which was sold to an independent once regal opened the Winter Park 20 and is now a discount theater. Don't know if the 70mm equipment still exists there.

    On a side note, does anyone know what's happening to the former UA "Cinema 70 & 150" in Seattle? When I was there, I was so tempted to pry open the doors just to take a look inside. I've only seen pictures of D150 screens and was in awe.

    =TMP=

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    Frank Angel
    Film God

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    From: Brooklyn NY USA
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     - posted 08-12-2002 01:28 PM      Profile for Frank Angel   Author's Homepage   Email Frank Angel   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
    Thank Mark, I hadn't been by there recently. A bunch of the theatre staff here would pile in a couple of cars and drive the hour out and hour back from Brooklyn just to see a film in that deep curved screen and their great presentation (at least until UA forced them to use screen ads). I spoke to the manager and suggested he play the damn ads but then close the curtain, wait a minute or two and then do his light dim and opening as they had done for years with curtain and screen warmer lights. He did that for about three months but the curtain motor died and management didn't want to replace it AND wanted to know why he was messing with the curtain at all. It's a shame when management just doesn't get it.

    So much for our much loved Dimension 150.


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    Bill Gabel
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    From: Technicolor / Postworks NY, USA
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     - posted 08-12-2002 01:44 PM      Profile for Bill Gabel   Email Bill Gabel   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
    Also for the Aero Theatre in Santa Monica, California.

    American Cinematheque may be taking over the Aero Theatre, as a
    West Side Screening location. To go with the restored Egyptian
    Theatre in Hollywood.

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    Thomas Procyk
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    From: Royal Palm Beach, FL, USA
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     - posted 08-12-2002 10:17 PM      Profile for Thomas Procyk   Email Thomas Procyk   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
    I just got an e-mail from a lurker who lives in Seattle just 4 blocks from the UA 70/150, and he has informed me that it is slated for demolition.

    Why do people mess with perfectly good theaters?
    =TMP=

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