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Brad Miller
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From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall)
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 - posted 05-18-2000 01:43 PM      Profile for Brad Miller   Author's Homepage   Email Brad Miller       Edit/Delete Post 
Hey John,

How about making a double thickness super-strong mylar leader out of Kodak's new film stocks with the anti-static backing?


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John Pytlak
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 - posted 05-18-2000 02:38 PM      Profile for John Pytlak   Author's Homepage   Email John Pytlak   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Thicker "leader" materials are made on different equipment. The state-of-the-art machine that makes Kodak VISION Color Print base cost over 200 million dollars, and is optimized for making 4.7 mil (120 micrometre) polyester film base.

Why do you want the added thickness? A polyester leader that is twice as thick would be very stiff. Kodak's subsidiary FPC sells a variety of leader material:
http://www.fpcfilm.com/US/en/motion/FPC/fpc/proc_mach_specs.html

In particular, Item 9100 is a 7-mil (180 micrometre) clear blue polyester leader that is quite stiff and perforated with normal KS-1870 perforations. I've sometimes recommended it as an alignment tool. Unfortunately, it does not have an emulsion (no possibility of an image or framelines), and no conductive layer. Hopefully, FPC has a leader that will fit your needs.

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Worldwide Technical Services, Entertainment Imaging
Eastman Kodak Company
Research Labs, Building 69, Room 7419
Rochester, New York, 14650-1922 USA
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Brad Miller
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 - posted 05-18-2000 03:19 PM      Profile for Brad Miller   Author's Homepage   Email Brad Miller       Edit/Delete Post 
John,

The thicker leaders last longer. Get yourself a stretch of Xelar leader and compare it to the standard NT Audio Visual blue mylar leader most theaters use. The Xelar is top notch and will outlast the NT/AV leader by far due to it's added thickness.

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Gordon McLeod
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The NT leader is painted on a blankstock from germany
The Xetron leader is actually printed on Kodak estar stock

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Bryan Redemske
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bottom up. always. but i think i'm the only one so the prints still look like crap.

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John Wilson
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Bottom to top also. Plus, keep the emusion towards the ceiling both to and from the projector.

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Brad Miller
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 - posted 05-19-2000 04:54 AM      Profile for Brad Miller   Author's Homepage   Email Brad Miller       Edit/Delete Post 
Nope, I run the emulsion on the rollers...always. That means for non-operator side platters, run the soundtrack away from the screen always and for operator side platters, soundtrack toward the screen always.

Not running the base side of the film on the rollers cuts down on the shedding if you're running the film dry. It sounds crazy, but try it! Also, this will keep twisting to a bare minimum.

(Is there a magical gravitational thing I'm missing by keeping the emulsion pointing away from the earth? )


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