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Jim Ziegler
Jedi Master Film Handler

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From: West Hollywood, CA
Registered: Jul 99


 - posted 05-19-2000 05:59 AM      Profile for Jim Ziegler   Email Jim Ziegler   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
The illegal aliens who inspect our prints...

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John Pytlak
Film God

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From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922
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 - posted 05-19-2000 07:38 AM      Profile for John Pytlak   Author's Homepage   Email John Pytlak   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Prints are almost never inspected by the film exchanges, because distributors no longer pay them for this optional service.

All incoming prints (new or used) should be inspected at the theatre before making-up onto a platter or large reels. Obvious problems like poor lab splices, torn perfs or edges, etc. can usually be found and repaired at the rewind bench. Examining the film surface under a strong specular light (e.g., a spotlight or halogen desk lamp) will usually reveal any scratches or heat damage (opalescent hot spot damage).

I highly recommend theatres having someone watch and listen to each print early in the run, to note any less obvious problems like sound drop-outs/defaults, sound sync problems, minor scratches, etc. (Find a few regular technically-minded "film buffs" who would be willing to report on a print's condition for a free admission). Report any serious damage immediately, and request a replacement reel. Keep a log for each print, noting any problems that may develop.

At the end of the run, carefully "break down" the print onto shipping reels, reattaching the leaders. As discussed in another thread, take enough pride in your work to "seal" the outer lap of each reel with an "inspection sticker" with your name and theatre, and include a copy of your print log for that print, so the next projectionist can know what to expect.

Professional pride and mutual support among projectionists is probably the best way to address the lack of print inspection by the distributors and exchanges. If we don't do it, no one else will.

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John P. Pytlak, Senior Technical Specialist
Worldwide Technical Services, Entertainment Imaging
Eastman Kodak Company
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John Wilson
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From: Sydney, Australia.
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I'm all for a thorough inspection before screening...but it is THEIR PRINT, NOT OURS. Distributors should make sure that if they want their prints back from previews and they are not going to inspect them themselves, then those prints should go back to the theater they came from.

It is not fair that theaters should pay top dollar for scratched up prints. If they scratch them themselves, then that's their own stupid fault, but to HAVE to receive a pre-damaged print is unacceptable.

Make the theaters PAY for their damage, then we might start getting some REAL projectionists in there and not people who are professional vacuumers and part time operators of projection equipment. The bean counters will surely start looking at the bottom line more closely if they are saving $100 per week by having a candy-kid upstairs over a trained projectionist, but that $100 saving is gonna look much less attractive if there is a $2000 dollar bill to be paid every month for replacement reels.

Also, if a theater knows there is a pretty good chance that the print he is previewing will make it back to him for the season, he may take a little bit more care with it. If he knows that will never happen and he also knows that he will not be charged or even found out, he ain't gonna bother making sure that film goes around the right rollers.


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Michael Barry
Jedi Master Film Handler

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From: Sydney, NSW, Australia
Registered: Nov 1999


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I completely fail to understand why theatres are not charged for damaged prints, particularly when they require a replacement print mid-season because the one they were supplied with has been completely destroyed and is un-runnable. In this case, it is obviously the theatre that damaged the print, so why aren't they charged?

I've even heard of cases in which multiple prints of a film were shipped to certain venues as 'backups' - clearly anticipating irreversible damage! Did these venues get charged extra for requiring extra prints?

As you say, John, if they were charged, the industry would be a very different place.

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Lance C. McFetridge
Expert Film Handler

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From: Penn Yan, New York
Registered: Jul 99


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Well, enough of lurking, and time to rant. I think that the whole system is in need of an over-haul. I own my theatre. And I have seen times when we will receive a print from TES on a Friday, and it is shipped by a taxi from as far away as 250 miles. That must be cost effective!!! We build the print, it is damaged so I call for a replacement reel, or print. Do I get it for the first show.....not on your life. So can I afford to have a dark screen? Can I turn paying customers away, but in the same sense, shouldn't the customer be entitled to see a flawless presentation? Who gets hurt here? I rely on Tes to deliver me a print that for all practical purposes is in good viewing condition and that is not always the case. So whose mercy am I at. Calls to the distributor go without satisfaction, Ads have been placed, people want to see the movie, small riots can occur with always the same mentality, "screw you, I will go to another theatre". And why? Because no matter how centrally located the distribution network is, I usually do not see a repacement reel or print for 1 to 2 days.
I had a pad roller in the sound head once that was out of adjustment and so the sprocket decided to try to re-perf a reel of a certain print. No amount of film guard in the world would stop the new "pricks" from sticking together. I paid for the damage, sure it hurt, and as I remember it cost somewhere around 800 bucks. Did I have a choice.........hell no. The film distrubtor simply said that if I didn't pay, no more films.
OK, so the point? Economics!!!! Until such time that we have representation in this industry that will stand up for exhibitors, we will continue to be at the mercy of Hollywood, and companies like TES. When was the last time an independant theatre was reimbursed for a print not arriving for the first show? Although we make a really good bag of popcorn, that is really not why people come in the front doors. So, we just sit there, grumbling, and as far as taking any action that we can afford? Just what would that be?
lance

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Jim Ziegler
Jedi Master Film Handler

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From: West Hollywood, CA
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In response to Michael's post: Interestly enough, The last several times we needed to replace bad reels on ETS prints, we were sent to the AMC Ward Parkway (Stan Durwoods baby) to get them.. Apparently, they order spare prints...

And AMC wonders why our sister theatre is beatting the crap out of Ward Parkway..

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