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Bruce McGee
Phenomenal Film Handler

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From: Asheville, NC USA... Nowhere in Particular.
Registered: Aug 1999


 - posted 06-25-2000 11:15 PM      Profile for Bruce McGee   Email Bruce McGee   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Barry:

I used to live in Nashville (1975-1982) and now live 5 hours east on I-40. Is the MetroCenter really as barren as you say? I worked at WZTV at their old location at 38th Av. and Charlotte Pike. When I left, they were preparing for the move to MetroCenter. I guess they are still there, too? The old Skyway Drive In was my haunt in 1977 when I ran Star Wars every night.

Is the Belcourt theatre still near Vanderbilt U? I think I heard that the Tennessee Theater downtown bit the dust a few years back, like the old Sam Davis Hotel did. (Ka-BOOM)

Bruce

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Barry Floyd
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From: Lebanon, Tennessee, USA
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 - posted 06-26-2000 09:33 AM      Profile for Barry Floyd   Author's Homepage   Email Barry Floyd   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
First of all... Evans, you found'em both!
Hexagon / Octogan... whatever, I always sucked at geometry.

Bruce...
Fountain Square is "really" as dead as I claimed.

The Belcourt "almost" got torn down last year, but a group of "art-film lovers" saved it and now runs it strictly as an art-house. They've got a web-site, but I can't remember the domain.
The old Tennessee theater on Church street was torn down in 1986 to make way for a 20 story "luxury condo/apartment" building. I've got some photos of the Tennessee before it was torn down.

You mentioned the old "Sam Davis Hotel". I currently work for an engineering firm in Nashville, and we have one of the original solid-oak fully enclosed phone booths from the lobby of the Sam Davis in our lobby.

Where was the Skyway drive-in? I know of the "Cresent", the "Montague", the "Capital"
and "Colonial"... but never heard of the "Skyway". I've got the two original Brenkert BX-60's from the "Sumner" drive-in in my basement.

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Evans A Criswell
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From: Huntsville, AL, USA
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 - posted 06-26-2000 12:38 PM      Profile for Evans A Criswell   Author's Homepage   Email Evans A Criswell   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Pictures of the Fountain Square 14 at MetroCenter are now on the image page I provided for the Cinema North/South pictures. The Fountain Square images are at the bottom of the page. Some of the auditoriums at the Fountain Square look like they'd be quite small, with screens that aren't very high.

The URL is http://home.hiwaay.net/~criswell/theatre/images/nashville/ (Not linked into my main site.)

If you want to know the general condition of MetroCenter, take a look at this theatre. The wide shot I provided links to a much larger version of the picture. For my movie, I'd like the Sicily Caesar Pizza and Pasta auditorium, please! There appear to be several office type buildings in use, and most of the food places in the area probably survive by providing convenient lunch places for the office workers. Fountain Square Mall looks mostly empty, and it appears that many of the spaces in use are not stores, but are offices for businesses.

By the way, the Cinema South picture I put up was taken at night with the shutter open for 2 seconds. The ones taken at 1 second showed "The Outer Limit" on the sign, but the auditoriums did not show up well.

Evans http://home.hiwaay.net/~criswell/theatre/


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Evans A Criswell
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 - posted 06-27-2000 03:13 PM      Profile for Evans A Criswell   Author's Homepage   Email Evans A Criswell   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I really started thinking about this pod design thing and sound bleed-through around 10 PM last night and toyed with it for a couple of hours. I scanned in my drawings and put them, with comments, at
http://home.hiwaay.net/~criswell/theatre/images/th_designs/ (not linked to the main site)

Octagons (or extended octagons) come together in quite neat ways. I couldn't find my 30-60-90 drafting triangle, so I haven't toyed with hexagons yet. Hexagons tile the plane, so some neat things might happen with them. With octagons, it is possible to build a structure with minimal sound bleed-through, while not having such a ridiculous amount of rectangular wall, while having a centralized booth and lobby. However, it is hard to have more than 6 or 7 auditoriums without losing the centralized booth or lobby. Maybe that's why the "pod" design went out when the number of auditoriums per theatre went up.

Comments? Ideas for cool or non-conventional multiplex designs?

Evans

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David Emery
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From: WI
Registered: Mar 2000


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The theater I work at was totally built out of Ice Block walls. If nobody knows what this it I will explein. They are 2 foot by 4 foot blocks of foam 3 inches thick on both sides and about 1 foot to 16 inches of empty space in between except steal to keep the 2 halves togeather and stacked 2 blocks high. Then they get steel rods to reinforce them and they poor cement in the middle of this. Hardly anything can get through these walls. The only thing that can is some of those extream DTS bass blasts and even most of those cant get though the walls.


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John Walsh
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 - posted 07-09-2000 10:19 AM      Profile for John Walsh   Email John Walsh   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
We have several theaters where two auditouriums "share" a common wall. If properly done, there is very little sound leakage. While one wall looks like it's shared, there are really two walls in there, with seperate studs, fiberglass insulation, with 3 layers of sheetrock on each side.

The common wall(s) do share the same poured footing, but then each wall starts with it's own poured (or concrete block) base. The studs (usually steel, nowadays) is built up from there, and there's no mechanical connection between the two until the wall reaches the roof.

The pod idea is a really good one, but probably just too expensive. It's not just the walls, there would be higher costs for several other things, like ducting, roof grid, etc. If the pod idea gives you a (say) 100% sound isolation, constructing the footing as I described might give you (say) 92%, but the cost would be much, much lower.

And, of course, it seems the avaiable property is never in an ideal shape for what you want.

I worked at a theater located right next to railroad tracks. I was talking to the architect, who told me they poured several tons of lead into the foundation to prevent the wall (facing the tracks) from shaking when trains went by. While it may have helped, it really didn't work too well. It's a local sort of joke to be watching a film there when a train goes by, and have the action on the screen match the shaking of the theater.

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System Notices
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Gregory Marshall
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Consolidated Theatres Inc., out of Charlotte NC, built Cinema North, Cinema South here in the Nashville area. They also built the University in Huntsville. Consolidated sold to Carmike in 1989. All of the original Consolidated houses are now closed here. I managed the South from '83 until '88.

AMC opened Fountain Square 14 in November, 1987.

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