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Dave Cutler
Master Film Handler

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From: Centennial, CO
Registered: Jun 2000


 - posted 07-14-2000 11:20 PM      Profile for Dave Cutler   Email Dave Cutler   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Pretty much if I don't get trailers or commercials in by Wednesday they don't go up untill the following week. Sorry just don't have time, too many other things to do. Like this week, I was supposed to get BVD's 'Unbreakable' on all my prints of X-Men. Didn't get the trailers in untill Friday morning. Sorry you lose, wait till next week is my reaction. I do the same thing with NCN, they can complain all they want, I don't give a crap. It's not like I get any benefit from of placing their ads or trailers.

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Nicholas McRobert
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From: Belfast, N. Ireland
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 - posted 07-15-2000 04:22 AM      Profile for Nicholas McRobert   Email Nicholas McRobert   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Oh boy..... let's just wait and see what the trailer/ad policy is like if/when this whole Digital Projection thing comes in.... I can just picture it now:

Coke (Refreshing Film Maker)
Mc Donalds (Big Date)
Farmer's Ins.
**Previews (20 mins)**
Policy Trailer
DLP Snipe
**Feature Part One (15 mins)**
USAF
DLP snipe
Coke (Film maker we've seen before)
**Feature Part Two (20 mins)**
Mc Donalds (Bigger Date -- Featurette)
Burger King (We got it OUR way)
DLP snipe
**Feature Part Three (30 mins)**
Coke (Annoying Film Maker)
DLP snipe
**Feature Part Four (15 mins)**
Coke (Film maker we'd LIKE to KILL)
DLP Snipe
**Feature Part Five (15 mins, inc. credits)**
END

But hey...look on the bright side....no "film" programme to "make up". Just *download* and watch your customers CRINGE!

Nicholas

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Scott Norwood
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From: Boston, MA. USA (1774.21 miles northeast of Dallas)
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 - posted 07-15-2000 09:29 PM      Profile for Scott Norwood   Author's Homepage   Email Scott Norwood   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Oh, no! I just saw the McDonalds ad tonight. Yuck. Brad's description pretty much sums it up. Our prints are pretty crappy too. They have vertical streaks that look like the developer was applied unevenly. All ten of them have this problem, so it's not just a single defective print.

As for "how many trailers," I'd answer: too damn many! I've worked at three theatres. The first one was an art house that was lucky to get trailers for anything; we were always begging for them and TES was always "out of stock." The second theatre is a place where I fill in occasionally; they run about 2-3 trailers plus a "coming soon" tag and a "feature presentation" tag. That's really the perfect length for a trailer reel--it gives latecomers enough time to get seated and doesn't show so many trailers that the audience can't remember any of them.

The third theatre where I also fill in occasionally (including tonight) is a chain-owned multiplex. On most non-BV films, they show about 15-20 minutes' worth of "stuff" before the movie. Several NCN ads, Jimmy Fund ad, coming attractions tag, bunch of trailers, Moviefone, courtesy, feature presentation, etc. It's really ridiculous.

Oh, and my vote for "worst NCN ad" doesn't go to McDonalds, but rather to Nike, for producing the worst sound mix in an ad. It's so much louder than everything else that we get complaints right when it starts. I usually run it at about 5.5 and then turn the sound up to 7 for the trailers.

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Leo Enticknap
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 - posted 07-16-2000 03:42 PM      Profile for Leo Enticknap   Author's Homepage   Email Leo Enticknap   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Our company policy is that the 'bulls**t reel' (BSR), as I call it, should be as close as possible to 15 minutes. This can be a real pain as the length of the commercials tends to vary wildly from week to week - anything from 2 to 12 minutes.

U (Universal - i.e. suitable for young kids) and 18-certificate trailers are a real problem - U because very few trailers have this certificate, so it is often difficult to find enough of them to make up a full BSR for a U-cert film. 18-cert trailers are the opposite problem - we show 18-cert features so rarely that these trailers often get sent back unused.

Leo

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Mike Spaeth
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 - posted 07-18-2000 04:02 AM      Profile for Mike Spaeth   Author's Homepage   Email Mike Spaeth   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
My current package:

1 COCA-COLA REFRESHING FILMMAKER
2 TECHNICOLOR AD REEL (MCDONALDS/AIR FORCE/FARMERS INSURANCE)
3 5-6 TRAILERS (NO LESS THAN 5)
4 DTS TRAILER (IF APPLICABLE)
5 CINEMARK "IMAGE" TRAILER
FEATURE.

I like the technicolor advertising program MUCH better than the NCN program. If there's one pre-show ad changing, they ship out a set of new "reels" w/ all the ads for the week spliced together, so it's just pull off the old, drop in the new. Also, we received word today that Buena Vista eased up on their policy. Now, we can play pre-show advertising on all Buena Vista prints that are not succinctly "Disney" (i.e. The Kid). I don't mind the preshow - but currently having 4 minutes worth - I make sure that my Projectionists (Usher-B in Cinemark terms) start the 7:00 feature at 6:56, etc. It then simply replaces the screen slide advertising during those 4 minutes, then a cue brings the lights to half-dim at the end of the preshow.

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Scott Norwood
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 - posted 07-18-2000 07:11 AM      Profile for Scott Norwood   Author's Homepage   Email Scott Norwood   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Mike - good point about starting the show early. I like to set the automation start timers for the scheduled start time. I normally try to start each show manually about 2-3 minutes before the scheduled start, but at least the timer will start the show if I get tied up elsewhere or if there are multiple shows starting at the same time.

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Charles Everett
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 - posted 05-25-2002 11:10 AM      Profile for Charles Everett   Email Charles Everett   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Twice in the past three months I got a six-pack of trailers before the feature.

All About the Benjamins had a trailer pack that went xXx (first version), Bad Company, Frailty, Undercover Brother, Blade II, Jason X. Good mix of action titles and black flava with a religious thriller for a change-up.

Spider-Man had a trailer pack of The Hulk (first teaser), Austin Powers in Goldmember (second teaser), Mr. Deeds, Men in Black II, Stuart Little 2 (full-length), xXx (second version). Great trailer pack -- a Marvel character, a long-awaited sequel and 4 Sony titles.

Running 5-6 trailers isn't that difficult if you know what works with your audience.

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Paul G. Thompson
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....but you can tell what your audience can handle. Just watch the audience's reaction as the trailers progress. They start squirming in their seats, sometimes they shout an obsenity, sometimes they will throw something at the screen, or maybe even display an obscene jesture towards the projection booth porthole.


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Rachel Gilardi
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 - posted 05-25-2002 02:12 PM      Profile for Rachel Gilardi   Email Rachel Gilardi   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
We are an indy and every week I do a complete trailer inventory and put together the trailers with the owner...

It goes:

Jordan's Furniture Ad
Moviefone
Pepsi Barbie Trailer
2-4 trailers
*Feature*

The Jordan ad isn't that bad, the audience always seems to get a giggle out of it. What drives me crazy is that we are half sub-run, half first run art...we use the Barbie trailer on both sub and art! Personally if I were going to watch and art film I wouldn't want to see a barbie fart in a pepsi cup! Don't get me wrong though, I do like it.

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Manny Knowles
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 - posted 05-25-2002 02:17 PM      Profile for Manny Knowles   Email Manny Knowles   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I started off running something like 8 minutes worth of trailers, but latecomers (audience majority) forced me to go longer so I immediately ramped up to a 20 minute program which I have gradually whittled down to about 12 mins or so.

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Adam Wilbert
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 - posted 05-25-2002 09:16 PM      Profile for Adam Wilbert   Author's Homepage   Email Adam Wilbert   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I just wish that, if the studio is going to attach trailers, that they be appropriate for the film. I remember the "Spirit: Stallion of the Cimarron" trailer on "Time Machine" got a very loud "What the F***" from somone in the audience the first show. It was the same thing I thought when I saw it the night before.

-Adam

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Brad Miller
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 - posted 05-25-2002 09:44 PM      Profile for Brad Miller   Author's Homepage   Email Brad Miller       Edit/Delete Post 
Adam, to give another example to support your argument, Fox put "Like Mike" in the can with Episode II. Every other trailer in the pack gets applauds, but that one is so inappropriate people have been booing at the screen when it comes on.

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Scott Norwood
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 - posted 05-25-2002 10:32 PM      Profile for Scott Norwood   Author's Homepage   Email Scott Norwood   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
The current AMC (ex-GCC) policy is as follows: NCN (usually 2-4 ads, including the same Jordans Furniture thing that Rachel has), movietickets.com, 6 (yes, _six_) trailers, AMC snipe, feature. GCC always had Jimmy Fund trailers in the summer, too, but I don't know if AMC will have it as well.

Landmark (smaller art-house chain) has a much more reasonable trailer policy: Landmark logo, Pepsi Dolls (yuck), 3 or so trailers, IFC snipe, feature. No slides and no ads. However, they seem to have an annoying habit of changing most of the trailers every week for no apparent reason.

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Frank Angel
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 - posted 05-26-2002 03:28 PM      Profile for Frank Angel   Author's Homepage   Email Frank Angel   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I guess I am spoiled running in art houses. We NEVER have to run ads. We ONLY run trailers for films we are actually going to play, and then usually limited to 3.

We try to open every show with a Warner Brothers cartoon at the top of the attraction reel (when fickle Warner Classics allows them in release), followed by usually the 2 or 3 trailers, occasionally I've gone to 4 and then always a PSA (our "community give-back" coincept); when at all possible we like to run an Academy Award winning short, also when we can get them. Attraction reel runs at 1.5/1 ar (our compromised 1.37). Curtains close, Pause, Curtains open, mask changes to wide screen, feature starts.

Since we play films that are not in a theatre near you (not current releases) any studio trailers that are attached to the head of R1 always meet the splicing block knife, unless per chance, it is a trailer for a film that we've programmed (this only happend once that I can remember), then we will play it, but it still has to come off R1 of the feature and has to go onto the attraction reel because of the curtain business.

We try to keep everything on the attraction reel to no longer than 15min, but if we are playing a short, we can go longer. We always state two times in our ads -- curtain time and starting time of the feature. We also mention that our preshow music concert starts about 20 minutes before curtain.

Patrons seem to like being able to choose if they only want to come just for the feature and not the preshow stuff (just a handful actually do this). Most get here before the curtain and about a third come the full 20 min to hear the preshow music.

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Bill Langfield
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From: Prospect, NSW, Australia
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10 ads and 7 trailers (all teasers tho) that had to go on Spiderman.

Was not easy to carry this head-program from the spinning
thing on the bench to the BIG spinning thing next to the projector.



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