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Pat Moore
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 - posted 09-18-2000 12:47 PM      Profile for Pat Moore   Email Pat Moore   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Good thoughts from Brad and Richard both, especially the aperture plate swapped with another machine.

Anything new since?

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John T. Mellor
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From: Htafield, Pennsylvania, USA
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 - posted 09-18-2000 08:21 PM      Profile for John T. Mellor   Email John T. Mellor   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Allof the replies are valid , the best thing I have found is to ask some questions before you start to ajust or cut a new plate. Is the bulb ok and in alignment ,is the reflector good and centered is the bulb focused properly is the projector aligned to the lamphouse , check the lens and lens barrel, then look at the plate, . Again , may old mentor told me don't rush into a fix but find the real problem before you fix it.

Hope it helps ,
John

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Megan Penmann
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From: Gainesville, FL USA
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 - posted 09-21-2000 10:00 PM      Profile for Megan Penmann     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Someone mentioned the problem with projectors "settling" and the picture gradually overshooting towards the bottom of the screen. Our theatre has been open for 10 months now, and I'd like to correct the ones where it's noticeable. What's the best way to go about doing this?

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Sean McKinnon
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 - posted 09-22-2000 12:54 AM      Profile for Sean McKinnon   Author's Homepage   Email Sean McKinnon   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
ive never actually seen this Ive only worked in well worn in older theatres. a friend of mine works at a new 20 screen where all the aperatures are off and he said that it was because they cut the plates right after they hung the screens he said they should have waited a week or so... ?

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Martin Frandsen
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 - posted 09-22-2000 03:26 AM      Profile for Martin Frandsen   Email Martin Frandsen   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
There was an excellent thread regarding aperture plate's here on the forum 5 months ago.


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John Pytlak
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From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922
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 - posted 09-22-2000 05:30 AM      Profile for John Pytlak   Author's Homepage   Email John Pytlak   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Megan Penmann said: "Someone mentioned the problem with projectors "settling" and the picture gradually overshooting towards the bottom of the screen. Our theatre has been open for 10 months now, and I'd like to correct the ones where it's noticeable. What's the best way to go about doing this?"

I doubt that "settling" is a common problem, so look first for other causes. First, be sure your aperture plate and lenses are properly seated in the projector, and haven't been changed (e.g., filed, shimmed) without your knowledge. If the image is still too low on the screen, the adjustment will depend upon whether you have a console or pedestal mount for the lamphouse and projector. Most consoles have adjustable leveling "feet" that can be adjusted to raise or lower each corner of the console slightly. On cast iron pedestals, there is usually a large knob that turns an adjusting screw that tilts the lamphouse and projector back and forth to raise and lower the projection angle. Or, like consoles, the pedestal may have been leveled with four screw-adjusted "feet". Sometimes, shims are used under the "feet" -- perhaps they slipped out of position?

As always, use the SMPTE 35-PA (RP40) test film to verify the image size and position on the screen. The black screen masking should define sharp edges corresponding to the format --- ideally a 0.825 inch image width for all of today's 35 mm formats. Scope projectable image height is 0.690 inches. Flat 1.85:1 projectable image height is 0.446 inches. In reality, unless the projector is perfectly orthogonal to the screen, there will be some "keystoning" that may require slight cropping of the image to get a rectangular image on the screen.

A good way to get a "feel" for what changing various things like throw, lens focal length, projection angle, etc. do, is to use the Schneider Theatre Design Pro software, which can be downloaded from their site:
http://www.schneideroptics.com/theatre/desprodn.html

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John P. Pytlak, Senior Technical Specialist
Worldwide Technical Services, Entertainment Imaging
Eastman Kodak Company
Research Labs, Building 69, Room 7419
Rochester, New York, 14650-1922 USA
Tel: 716-477-5325 Fax: 716-722-7243
E-Mail: john.pytlak@kodak.com

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Brad Miller
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From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall)
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 - posted 09-22-2000 02:23 PM      Profile for Brad Miller   Author's Homepage   Email Brad Miller       Edit/Delete Post 
Another possibility just crossed my mind. The aperture plates in many models of projectors (such as a Century) are easily inserted "upside down". If these are non-stadium/non-curved screens, the aperture in many instances will "almost" work, but will feature aperture shadows.

I always take the edge of a file and "notch" the top edge of the plates and scratch in the theater number.

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