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Michael Barry
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 - posted 10-01-2000 08:56 PM      Profile for Michael Barry   Email Michael Barry   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Steve: I take it that the filmmaker's copy had lab cues already? Or are you saying that it had no cues at all and you still managed to know where the changeovers were? If so, how?

I recently left a cinema which had no platters and the box was flanked by two cinemas on either side...sometimes we ran 2000' spools on either side simulateously! That keeps you on your toes! Now I work in a twin with platters AND automation. I still work in a theatrette with changeovers, though.

In a theatrette, I prefer changeovers. In an actual movie theatre where I'm running the same movie 6 times a day, I prefer platters.

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Steve Guttag
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Nope, no cues what so ever (visable).

One of the most important keys to being a sucessful projecitonist is being able to think on one's toes.

I put on click tabs....clear splicing tape outside of the picture area that would cause the gate to "clack" when they went through the gate and intermittent shoe...I put four in sequence at each point. When you heard "clack, clack, clack,clack...turn on the motor...at the next point...hit the C/O.

After the show, pull off the tape...invisable cues.

Now doesn't it suck when the magician tells his secrets?

Steve

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Ky Boyd
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 - posted 10-02-2000 01:35 AM      Profile for Ky Boyd   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Scott:

Doesn't the Castro in SF run reels?
I believe the Fine Arts in Berkeley also runs reels and is a carbon arc house.
The UC in Berkeley also runs reels as does the Stanford in Palo Alto - in both these cases I believe they are running 2000's

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John Walsh
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I worked in one booth (well, I only worked there twice) that had three projectors. Two JJ's and an old Simplex E7. They were running "Alien" in 70mm. It was the good old days; when they also gave you a 35mm back-up print. Had to run trailers befor the show, and it was really nice to just punch over from trailers to feature.

At Radio City MH, if it's a high profile show, they will sometimes get two prints and run two projectors at the same time in case there's a problem.

When I was running "Alien" at the place, there was no Dolby processor- was "Alien" avaiable in regular 70mm? I know that Dolby would not record anything onto Le and Re if you asked for a regular 70mm, but I was wondering if "Alien" was availble that way, of if the place I worked at was "cheating."

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Don Olson
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Most of the screening rooms in the "Bel Aire" circuit run 2000' reels and changeovers. As do the very very rich in their screening rooms in the Northwest.

I have heard that Sumner Redstones home theatre is this way also.

Don Olson

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Tom Sauter
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The Western New York changeover tally:

I run 6000' changeovers at the Center for the Arts (200 seat screening room...pictures coming). Strong 1600W Xenon and Century SA.

Shea's Buffalo (3100 seat proscenium theatre) runs carbon-arc changeovers. Century JJ 35/70s w/ mag penthouses. Big AC-DC generator recently replaced by rectifiers

The Riviera Theatre (Wurlitzer Organ house) runs 2000' carbon arc and is fully equipped and licensed to run nitrate (and sometimes does)

In nearby Rochester the University operates two houses w/6000' changeovers and the George Eastman house is also equipped for 2000 footers and nitrate.

There's probably more, but one can see changeovers are far from dead around here.

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Paul Cunningham
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Elsewhere in Victoria, that I know of with changeovers are; most of the University theatres, Sorrento (I suspect judging by the prints I get from them), Puckapunyal Cinema (runs 4 days per week), RAAF Sale and Swanpoole Cinema which runs 2000 footers and carbon arcs on their C & W projectors. Probably a few other country ones too.

Paul

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William Hooper
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quote:
In nearby Rochester the University operates two houses w/6000' changeovers and the George Eastman house is also equipped for 2000 footers and nitrate.

Is that the big Eastman Theatre built in the silents days as part of the Eastman School of Music? I've often wondered if it is still standing and/or operating.

(Not many know that Eastman coughed up to establish the School of Music in order to train musicians to accompany silents!)

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Tom Sauter
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Actually it is George Eastman's house I am referring to, now a really neat museum (700+ piece projector collection!). There's a 300 seat screening room where prints are shown from the collection.

The Eastman Theatre (2200 seats downtown) is still operating. It has been really well maintained by the University although I don't think they screen films anymore. Organ works, though. The University operates two other on-campus theatres for films (both CO houses)

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Mark Lensenmayer
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Regarding ALIEN in 70mm...yes, there were non-Dolby 70mm prints available. That was the first big 70mm release at the time, and a number of the theatres did not have 70mm Dolby units.

Those were the days when the 70mm prints opened BEFORE the 35mm prints. I think this happened on one of the Star Wars films, also...possibly Empire?

Variety had an ad for Alien that listed all of the theatres running 70mm prints...it was considered a big deal at the time. It would be interesting to see how many of those theatres are still in business.

Mark L.

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John Pytlak
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One of my co-workers also works as a projectionist at the Dryden Theatre of the International Museum of Photography at the George Eastman House. Yes, they have Century C projectors with 2000-foot magazines, and still equipped to show nitrate prints:
http://www.eastman.org/

The huge Eastman Theatre in Rochester is primarily used for "live" events, but Boston Light & Sound has come in to do several great film presentations with live accompaniment by the Rochester Philharmonic. There is a long-empty projection room high above the balcony in the theatre. My co-worker was instrumental in securing a pair of Norelco AA-II projectors from the Monroe Theatre (that fell on hard times and went the XXX bookstore/peepshow route), that hopefully will bring a permanent film projection capability back to George Eastman's wonderful gift to Rochester.

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Stefan Scholz
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Scott, why 3 35/70 mm's. The owners liked it. And there was the space. 16 is Bauer Selecton II in position 4. I know, it's an enthusiast's setup.
At the Savoy in Hamburg we just run two Norelcos and one Kinotone 35/16, your combination.

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William Hooper
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quote:
Shea's Buffalo (3100 seat proscenium theatre) runs carbon-arc changeovers. Century JJ 35/70s w/ mag penthouses. Big AC-DC generator recently replaced by rectifiers

Hmm..if William Enos is here or someone else remembers - what's the Byrd in Richmond using for DC?

I can see a couple of rectifiers for the projector lamps, but it's a struggle picturing a big battery charger behind the Brenograph for its carbon arc lamp.

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Bill Enos
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The Byrd Theatre in Richmond Va. has Simplex XLs with Peerless Magnarcs running at 55 amps supplied by 2 Ashcraft rectifiers we liberated 12 years ago from a long closed drive-in. we're using 6000 ft reels but usually only load 2 shipping reels on each to give better carbon use. We also have operational one of the original Westinghouse motor-generators that can be used as a back-up.

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Aaron Sisemore
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>>The only theatres I know of that run reel to reel around us Ian are:

The Sebastiani in Sonoma.
The Park in Lafayette.
The Grand Lake (Oakland); Orinda (Orinda), the Oaks (Albany) are capable of running reel to reel but they have platters.<<

The big house at the Crest in Sacramento just recently had an AW2 installed but can still run changeovers

The Mystic in Petaluma while no longer a movie theater (its now a very popular live music venue) has a completely functional changeover (6000' max) booth with Brenkert 80s and Strong X-16 conversions.

There is a completely functional carbon arc booth in the Fortuna Theatre that will, by the wishes of the district manager who wants to keep an old booth intact,be left in pristine condition, even though the rest of the building is being converted to a stadium triplex (the rear half of the building was twinned)...

>>Doesn't the Castro in SF run reels?<<

Yep. 2 JJ's with 6000' max capacity...

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