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Mike Blakesley
Film God

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From: Forsyth, Montana
Registered: Jun 99


 - posted 10-09-2000 12:09 PM      Profile for Mike Blakesley   Author's Homepage   Email Mike Blakesley   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
So there's a "smell?" If that's the case, I don't think I've ever received a FG'd print. At least I don't remember any unusual smells in the booth (film-related, that is.)

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Bruce McGee
Phenomenal Film Handler

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From: Asheville, NC USA... Nowhere in Particular.
Registered: Aug 1999


 - posted 10-09-2000 12:23 PM      Profile for Bruce McGee   Email Bruce McGee   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Years ago, I returned a print to a distributor after I used Vitafilm on it because it was dry and chattered in the gate (16mm) A few days later, I got a bill for a new print and 2 reels. The Vfilm had bleached the grey reels slightly, and they said the print was unusable.

I replied with a request to see the ruined print before I sent a thin dime to them, and a copy of a label from a can of Vfilm.

The print left me in vastly better condition than it was in when received. I know. I re-rewound it.

I was never bothered by them again.

To top it off, I started noticing that we were getting better prints for the first time in 5 years!

I gave a FG "box insert" to a local Regal theater rep. They've had 4 brain wraps this week due to static. The heat is on in the theater now.

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Brad Miller
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From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall)
Registered: May 99


 - posted 10-09-2000 02:56 PM      Profile for Brad Miller   Author's Homepage   Email Brad Miller       Edit/Delete Post 
No, the prints don't smell once they've been FilmGuarded. Only the soaked media pads (or open bottle) has a scent, which is generally gone after 1 pass.

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Risto Huovinen
Film Handler

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From: Viiala, Finland, Europe
Registered: Jul 2000


 - posted 10-10-2000 07:37 AM      Profile for Risto Huovinen   Author's Homepage   Email Risto Huovinen   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Ok Brad, that was just what I wanted to know. I have been thinking that I would give Film Guard a try here in our theatre too!(when I make some money to do that first) At the moment we have only 3 shows (+preview) of one film at weekends, small theatre (120 seats) and so, but if I owned or worked for a bigger theatre with more runs/film, I think I would use Film Guard regularly.

Running a theatre is more like a hobby for me and some of my friends, but I am interested in everything that could improve the shows. In our case the FG treatment would benefit the other 'bigger' theaters more than ours, if we just count the number of runs. If we run the film just 4 times or so, and some other theaters 100s of times, there's a difference. And, if compared to USA for example, here in Finland we don't probably show the same print as many times than you do? So for that reason alone the prints should be usually in rather good condition IF they have been shown properly.

So the need for Film Guarding is not so big here, I think? Our small-town theatre have films at 1-6 months after the release. So when it finally arrives in our theatre, it's already been run for 100s of times at the 'bigger' theaters. I personally think that every print should be Film Guarded BEFORE sending it to any theaters. The distributor company should do this. Then every theatre going to screen the film could benefit of it.

I try to say that after our booth have Film Guarded the print, there's just a couple of other small theaters after us that are going to screen it. So it would be better if the film is FG'd at the first theatre going to show the print to have the full efficiency.

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Bruce McGee
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From: Asheville, NC USA... Nowhere in Particular.
Registered: Aug 1999


 - posted 10-10-2000 09:33 AM      Profile for Bruce McGee   Email Bruce McGee   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Here is an answer to my post above referring to the brain wraps at a local theater. My contact there is not in the booth, and has no projection skills except what I have shown him with my equipment here at my house.

1- There is a new projectionist working the booth that had a week for training.

2- The person building prints last Thursday night quit Friday night.

3- One of the platters (a used Potts) has wrapped recently (Big Momma's House)

All of the equipment in the booth is reconditioned. Using Century C's and a bunch of different platters.

I initially was told that it was because the heat is on in the building. This has happened before at least twice this summer due to improper threading.

Personally, after talking to my friend this morning, I think that the wraps are all caused by operator/make-up errors, and a couple of platters in need of some adjustments. I have been in this booth in the past, and have seen one platter that would speed up and slow down allowing the loop to wrap around the platter and almost get caught in the brain before the operator would slow the platter by hand to get things back to normal.

The operator this weekend was blaming the prints for all the problems. The manager doesent seem to think this is the case.

Thank you John Pytlak for the email concerning this problem. I called my friend last night before work and told him what you said. He wants to be in the booth in the worst way, but for now, he is the only employee old enough to serve the beer.

The theater has no media cleaners.

Brad: what do you think of a light spraying on one side of the print after it is made-up on the platter before the first run-through? The manager there has the FG info, and likes what it says.

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Brad Miller
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From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall)
Registered: May 99


 - posted 10-10-2000 10:43 AM      Profile for Brad Miller   Author's Homepage   Email Brad Miller       Edit/Delete Post 
Don't spray the print, spray a cloth heavily and then start the platter spinning at a fairly good speed. Wipe the top edge of the film from center to edge. Run the show, flipping the film over for takeup. Wipe the edge again (the opposite side). Works quite well for killing static and helps to cut down on shedding as well, but won't be able to truly clean.

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