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Topic: Technicolor strikes again
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John Walsh
Film God

Posts: 2490
From: Connecticut, USA, Earth, Milky Way
Registered: Oct 1999
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posted 10-23-2000 08:51 PM
Two reasons why the disks are forgotten: Inexperienced people not being paid very much, and told to; "hurry up." (As Scott pointed out,) the disks sit in the drawers out of sight, so they are forgotten.Also, many of the "kids" truly think that most times the print is thrown away after we have it. There are only two 2nd run theaters within 10 miles of us, (and they are both single-screens) so they don't think that's where our print might go. After all, they send back damaged prints once in a while, and no one seems to notice. So they must not be used again, right?
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Bruce McGee
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1776
From: Asheville, NC USA... Nowhere in Particular.
Registered: Aug 1999
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posted 10-25-2000 01:44 PM
All this growling about the different systems. IMHO, I think the first mistake will be taking the sound off the film!DTS is an updated Vitaphone record! It's a great idea, but once optical sound goes, then any 35mm sound machine will no longer be able to play any 35mm sound print. I think that the cyan track is the beginning of the end of optical, anyway. I've been to theatres with mono optical sound and a fantastic, clear, bright, sharp, and steady picture. I've also been in theatres with a dull image, and sound so loud that it hurt my ears. I'd rather have the sharp bright image!
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John Walsh
Film God

Posts: 2490
From: Connecticut, USA, Earth, Milky Way
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posted 10-26-2000 08:57 AM
It's true that most films are recorded in analog.But, the point is, the audio "delivery system" at the theaters be of high quality and lower maintance (which I think digital does.) Even if the audio quality was the same, I'd still like to have digital because of less maintance. Saying that; "... it's analog sound to begin with, so playing it back in digital doesn't matter.." would be like saying; "... why do a 35 to 70mm blowup since the orginal negative is only 35mm?" I'm sure we've all heard the increase in quality on even old recordings when the master tapes were transfer to CD's. As far as loosing the DTS disks, although true, that's not the fault of DTS. A system should be used as it was designed... ie: no one really complained about running Cinerama (threading 3 projectors and a sound reproducer.) It was required to get the quality desired. DTS has the lowest compression, can run multiple languges and operate other control functions. If these features are important, don't loose the disks! Years ago it seend, engineers designed the highest quality motion picture systems they could; the work required to run them was secondary. Today, engineers design the "dumbest-downed" system they can, -then- try to squeeze in the quality afterward. Ho-hum.
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Mike Blakesley
Film God

Posts: 12767
From: Forsyth, Montana
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 10-27-2000 05:18 PM
I wasn't going to post my Techicolor disaster for this week, but since this thread got off topic, I decided to. Besides, it's a good one.We're playing Urban Legends 2 starting tonight. For some strange reason, my print arrived on Wednesday this week, so I put it together that nite. The last 200' of reel 1, and the first 200' of reel 2 had been FOLDED IN HALF down the middle at some point in the past. So there's a big crease down the middle of the film. The print was obviously run after the "fold" was straightened out, but that caused perf damage, since due to the crease, the film was now slightly too narrow for the average projector. Each reel also had scratches, a splice or two, etc. So I called TES to order new reels. To their credit, they were very nice on the phone and said they would call the next day with an "ETA" on when the reels would arrive. The next day... no phone call. As it turned out, I was out of town last night. Got home, and on my answering machine was a message from the bartender at the bar next door to the theatre, saying "This girl is here and says she's supposed to meet you at 9:00, so where are you," etc. Needless to say, my wife was VERY curious about this phone call! So I called the bar, and found out the "girl" was the TES courier with my new reels! She had left the reels at the bar. So I hightailed it to the bar and got the reels. A happy ending, but ONLY because the print got here on Wednesday night! Brad, maybe a new forum is in order...TES Horror Stories!
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Frank Prete
Film Handler
Posts: 55
From: Victoria, Australia
Registered: Sep 2000
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posted 10-27-2000 07:33 PM
With the way the recording industry is going, I don't think it will be too long before film masters are done in the digital domain. All of the editing is completed digitally, most of the mixing consoles are now 'virtual consoles' with each channel being called up on a computer screen.Much of the location recordings are done using the DAT format (Digital Audio Tape), and much of the ADR stuff would be done with any number of digital recorders. Lets face it digital recordings are better all round. If you think you can get away without digital then you might find that your customers will start looking else where. With the recent upsurge of DVD units in homes these days, people are becoming more and more aware of the benifits of digital sound - whatever brand you choose! It is not surprising that Dolby have officially changed the name of SRD to Dolby Digital. Everyone recognises the phrase Dolby Digital. I too have had frustrations with DTS discs not arriving, and on the other hand, I have heard some amazing sound in our DTS theatres. The same goes for Dolby Digital and SDDS. In the early days of digital we would often have a DTS print playing in our SRD house, and an SRD print playing in a DTS house. Now with films coming with multiple formats its not such a problem. Frank.
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