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Author Topic: A new kind of cue mark? Or toughest cues to see? Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 11-14-2000 03:10 PM                     FilmGuard completely stops the shedding on dye transfer prints.  |  IP: Logged Tom Sauter Expert Film Handler Posts: 163 From: Buffalo, NY, USA Registered: Sep 2000 posted 11-16-2000 01:09 PM                        The hardest cues to see that I've come across so far were on a 16mm print last night...they were scribed into the base instead of the emulsion! When I checked the print I KNEW they were there...when I showed it the first hint of a changeover was the tail running through the projector! Arrgh! Also just screened a Japanese 16mm reduction of a 1.85 print. The lab's cue marks were about the size of a baseball on a 12' high screen!  |  IP: Logged Mark Ogden Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 943 From: Little Falls, N.J. Registered: Jun 99 posted 11-17-2000 05:02 PM                     Actually as of this weekend, there's a new winner in the "most difficult cue mark to see" contest: "The 6th Day", motor cue, R1 Good luck and don't blink. .  |  IP: Logged Jeffry L. Johnson Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 809 From: Cleveland, Ohio, USA Registered: Apr 2000 posted 11-19-2000 10:18 AM                        The "toughest cue marks to see" that I remember were on the 70mm prints of _Brainstorm_. The changeovers take place during the 1.66:1 masked sequences. So the cue marks are in the black masked area of the print. Black cues on black with an ever so faint yellow ring. These were very difficult to see.  |  IP: Logged Leo Enticknap Film God Posts: 7474 From: Loma Linda, CA Registered: Jul 2000 posted 12-19-2000 06:50 PM                        The changeover I dread most of all is 'Gremlins' (r4-5 I think) - during the scene in which the gremlins are watching 'Snow White', a motor cue appears on the screen they're watching, followed by the one on the actual print you're showing about 3 seconds later. The first time I showed it I mistook the motor cue on 'Snow White' as the actual motor cue, then misread the genuine motor cue (i.e. too early) as the over cue, and therefore ended up showing most of the leader of the incoming reel.  |  IP: Logged Paul G. Thompson The Weenie Man Posts: 4718 From: Mount Vernon WA USA Registered: Nov 2000 posted 12-19-2000 07:31 PM                     If you are a projectionist who has been around the clock a couple of times watching a movie in the auditorium, did you ever get the feeling the projectionist on duty missed a motor cue? And come to find out he did? I have, many times. I never sensed the projector motor starting, even though that start-up could not be heard in the auditorium. Strange, huh?  |  IP: Logged Art Averett Film Handler Posts: 14 From: Orlando, FL Registered: Mar 2000 posted 12-19-2000 08:40 PM                     One I can definately say is a re-release of Disney's animated feature, "Oliver & Company" back in 95 or 96. Reel three had no cue marks at all. I'm from the old school. Never trust a print, new or old, from where it came. The print gets inspected before it hits the screen. Another one was the second original "Star Wars" 70MM print released in 1980. Very hard to see the cue marks. Had to turn off the booth lighting. If you've ever seen some of the old MGM or WB technicolor prints from the 40's & early 50's, you'll see those type of green cue marks especially when they've been transferred to video cassette, laser disc, and/or DVD.  |  IP: Logged Aaron Sisemore Flaming Ribs beat Reeses Peanut Butter Cups any day! Posts: 3061 From: Rockwall TX USA Registered: Sep 1999 posted 12-22-2000 04:48 PM                     >> during the scene in which the gremlins are watching 'Snow White', a motor cue appears on the screen they're watching, followed by the one on the actual print you're showing about 3 seconds later.<< Funny, I seem to remember this scene being mid-reel, and not at the end, however you are correct that the scene is the end of a reel of 'Snow White' (but the tail that projects thru the projector is actually from 'Best Friends') Aaron  |  IP: Logged John Wilson Film God Posts: 5438 From: Sydney, Australia. Registered: Dec 1999 posted 12-22-2000 05:26 PM                     >>however you are correct that the scene is the end of a reel of 'Snow White' (but the tail that projects thru the projector is actually from 'Best Friends')<< I remember that, Aaron. Obviously, whoever last ran that print if Snow White failed to leave a reference frame on the tail, otherwise those Gremlins would have noticed when they made it up. (Waiting for 'slap' from Mr. President) Does that mean that they actually wanted to watch Best Friends, and not Snow White? Incorrectly placed leaders and tails can ruin a Gremlin's night out. (Not to mention what a good food blender can do)  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 12-22-2000 08:57 PM                     They were GREMLINS, not projectionists! Of course they don't have the necessary skill to properly join leaders or identify reels. <SLAP!>  |  IP: Logged John Wilson Film God Posts: 5438 From: Sydney, Australia. Registered: Dec 1999 posted 12-22-2000 10:12 PM                     ...ouch.  |  IP: Logged

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