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Tim Reed
Better Projection Pays

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From: Northampton, PA
Registered: Sep 1999


 - posted 11-27-2000 08:14 PM      Profile for Tim Reed   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Bruce:

Can you record on 3/4"? I've got some great 16mm B-Westerns....

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Bruce McGee
Phenomenal Film Handler

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From: Asheville, NC USA... Nowhere in Particular.
Registered: Aug 1999


 - posted 11-28-2000 09:30 AM      Profile for Bruce McGee   Email Bruce McGee   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Tim:

I have a Sony 2850 3/4" boat anchor that will be in running order within a few months. I can handle VHS-Hi-Fi, Beta Hi-Fi, and 3/4" Lo-Fi. Before I do anything, I will be getting a new (for me) camera to use that I can run with the chroma turned off. I HATE color fringing on B/W goodies.

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Rory Burke
Expert Film Handler

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From: Burbank, CA, USA
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 - posted 11-28-2000 01:15 PM      Profile for Rory Burke   Email Rory Burke   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
On the simplex I drain the oil out like normal then once its all done draing i use a turkey baster to get ALL the dirty oil out. I also remove the oilfilters as tricky and delicate as those little brass things are and soak them in WD-40. I the use WD-40 and spray out the entire grear assembly first removing the glass back plate of course. I use the turkey baster to drain all the WD-40 out as well. <It seems the oil collects in a little puddle that the drain cant get to> I use a brush and try to get all the grime off the gear assembly using the WD-40 to rinse it all off. Drain Drain Drain. Replace back the cleaned out oil filter and clean oil and you are done for another year. Just replenish as necessary. Plus if the projector is extremely dirty i use a little pencil magnet to get out and particles of metal that might clog the oil filter. Takes about 3 hours for a 14 plex with another person helping you.

Rory

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Tim Reed
Better Projection Pays

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From: Northampton, PA
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 - posted 11-28-2000 11:02 PM      Profile for Tim Reed   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Bruce:

Sounds good! Maybe we can work up a deal when you get there? Right now, I've got el-cheapo VHS copies of nearly everything I have in 16mm - you know, the $2 stuff that you can get off the shelf at K-mart and such... But I wouldn't mind having some of my originals xnsfred.

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Scott Norwood
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From: Boston, MA. USA (1774.21 miles northeast of Dallas)
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 - posted 11-29-2000 05:23 AM      Profile for Scott Norwood   Author's Homepage   Email Scott Norwood   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
So...umm..Bruce...where do you find this stuff?

I had a chance to grab one of those RCA telecine projectors for $250, but passed. Apparently they're difficult to convert for use as conventional projectors and I don't have space for one, anyway. (I have no need for a film-chain in my house.)

Do you have the original 3-tube camera that's as big as the projector?

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Bruce McGee
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From: Asheville, NC USA... Nowhere in Particular.
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 - posted 11-29-2000 08:26 AM      Profile for Bruce McGee   Email Bruce McGee   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Uhm, Uhm (cough, cough)

Three years ago, I got 1 TP in Nashville from a TV production company when they ripped it out after they stopped doing 16mm work. When I arrived to pick it up, they asked me if I wanted a camera to go with it. Naturally, I said "why not!" and was given a TK-28 camera with the built-in multiplexer, slide projector, and monitor. Somebody brought out a big cardboard box full of papers and small parts and stuck it in the seat of the truck. (When I got home, I found that the box contained the manuals, set-up slides, and 3 spare NEW tubes for the camera!)

The guys at the business helped load the monsters in the truck, and I drove the 300 miles back home.

Here's the bad part:

After spending countless hours and weekends wiring and adjusting the beast, we had a big sync module failure. THEN a bar module died. I forgot to mention that the camera had not been run for almost 2 years before I got it.

THEN we found that we could not get parts from RCA for this thing, and we had access to nothing that we needed for repairs.

I did get to transfer about 30 hours of film before we lost the Chroma modules. After that, I copied a few B/W films, but the video was starting to smear.
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We installed the beast at a friends warehouse so there was plenty of room for it and the projector.
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We made the decision to scrap the thing after almost a year of begging for modules from friends in TV. We got several spares mods, but could never get the smear out of the video image, so we SCRAPPED (Aaraugh! ) the camera/multiplexer/slide projector!

Here's the good part:

I sold the 3 new tubes, set-up slides, time-base corrector, slide unit, mirrors, and manuals on the net for more than it cost me in vehicle wear, gas, and irritation on the trip to Nashville and back to Asheville. Made $$ on the deal!

About 6 months ago, a local station pulled their TP pair, and an RCA stand-alone multiplexer, slide projector, and gave one projector, and the 'plexer, and slide unit to me to haul. These are currently set-up in my garage along with the TP that I got in Nashville.

I hated destroying the camera, but we couldn't do anything else!

The 2 projectors are clean and in good condition. I have tweeked them and they are gentle on film. I've transferred some 60 year old B/W silent home movies on them with no problems. The image is rock steady.

The one that I will get this weekend is older, but is currently running as a stand-alone "viewer." There's a small speaker and amp installed on it, and it works fine. I love free things!

I promise not to continuously corrupt this site with sucky video, NTSC systems, and 16mm.

Does that tell you enough, Scott?

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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From: Music City
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 - posted 12-01-2000 07:43 PM      Profile for Mark Gulbrandsen   Email Mark Gulbrandsen   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Wow Bruce,
I spent a number of years maintaining that same stuff for a station in Chicago. I never really liked the TK-28 much but the TK 27 did great black and white as it had a 1.5" luminance vidicon tube, plus 3 tubes for color. Never had much trouble with the film chains, just normal maintainance and such. The shading of the TK-28's was just never as good as the old 27's were. I also maintained 5 TK-45's and that was a constant job. I'd be tweaking a camera sometimes just as it was going on the air!! Phew........2 of the 45's also got moved around between studios 3 times a day for different productions. They got powered down, moved, and powered back up. Usually they worked but not always after a re-power up. Then it seems like we only had 10 min. to get it back up. I happily left TV to work in film projection. I don't miss television at all. About the only TV activity I engage in now is restoring old pre 1950's B&W tv's.
Mark


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Jeff Stricker
Master Film Handler

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From: Calumet, Mi USA
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 - posted 12-02-2000 08:55 AM      Profile for Jeff Stricker   Email Jeff Stricker   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Mark, When I worked in TV in the mid/late '60's I think we had TK 43's. These were the squatty style enclosures. I believe they had 3 vidicons and one orthicon. Gosh, my memory is going out. Anyway they were moved between three studios every day, but never had to be disconneted as they were on long cables that came from a central connection that went up to the camera controls in the master control room. The only thing that had to be done when moving cameras was to "patch" the tally lights so they would operate with the switcher that controlled that studio.

Good luck with fixing the old TV's - there's a guy in Indianopolis (his name his name is Jeff Lendaro - an engineer at RCA/Thompson) who is one of the biggest restorers and collectors of old TV's in the country. I'll stick with fixing the old shortwave/ham communications receivers. Jeff

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Bruce McGee
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 - posted 12-02-2000 09:22 AM      Profile for Bruce McGee   Email Bruce McGee   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Ooh Ooh Ooh...

I've got a 1961 RCA color TV with the round tube that works. I got it in 1975 as junk and put a new kine in it.

Some film-Tech subject, eh?

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Harry Robinson
Expert Film Handler

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From: Franklin Tennessee
Registered: Dec 1999


 - posted 12-02-2000 09:55 AM      Profile for Harry Robinson   Email Harry Robinson   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
You know, one of the good things about my Super Simplex is that it kind of changes it's oil continuously. See...there's a bright side to everything.

Seriously, how often should I change the oil in the intermittent and the RCA 1040 gear box?

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Randy Stankey
Film God

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 - posted 12-02-2000 02:00 PM      Profile for Randy Stankey   Email Randy Stankey   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Here's a question...

Since we all know that Simplex leaks oil... How much leaking is TOO MUCH?

I have a lot of theatres call me up and say that the projector leaks oil and they all want me to come and fix it. I just tell them that unless it's gushing oil that they shouldn't worry about it . (There WERE a couple that were bad enough to fix, however.)

I tell them to go get some of those "EZ-Foil" cookie sheets and put them on the floor. Everybody always looks at me like I have three heads when I say that.

What's the consensus on this?

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Gordon McLeod
Film God

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My rule of thumb for supers or e7's if there isn't a puddle on the floor under the machine it isn't getting enough oil

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John Pytlak
Film God

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From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922
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 - posted 12-04-2000 08:19 AM      Profile for John Pytlak   Author's Homepage   Email John Pytlak   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Losing enough oil so that the proper oil level is hard to maintain calls for maintenance. A slight "ooze" or a few drops a day is not a problem, unless it gets on the film.

Keep the interior of the machine clean, and oil off the film. Oil on film causes visible "oil mottle", sticking of the film during unwinding, holding of dirt particles, and can actually leach the oil-soluble dyes out of the film (usually seen as tiny green spots in dark scenes).

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Eastman Kodak Company
Research Labs, Building 69, Room 7419
Rochester, New York, 14650-1922 USA
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Bill Purdy
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 - posted 12-04-2000 09:33 AM      Profile for Bill Purdy   Author's Homepage   Email Bill Purdy   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Well, this may seem a bit crude, but it is too amusing to not mention. I know of one projectionist who puts a tampon in the lower corner of the sound head. The string is left hanging out the door and when the string starts to drip he changes the "absorber".

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Ken Lackner
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 - posted 09-19-2001 02:57 PM      Profile for Ken Lackner   Email Ken Lackner   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
That is hillarious! But why must ALL simplex projectors leak? I used to work at 12 plex that had Simplex Milleniums less than a year and a half old, and half of them were already leaking!!! Would replacing a seal somewhere do the trick?

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