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Sean McKinnon
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1712
From: Peabody Massachusetts
Registered: Sep 2000

posted 11-28-2000 02:01 PM

I think that they have 2 pieces of glass one for flat and one for scope and they swap them

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John Pytlak
Film God

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From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922
Registered: Jan 2000

posted 11-28-2000 02:50 PM

Then they have automated port glass changers?

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Ben Wales
Jedi Master Film Handler

Posts: 602
From: Southampton. England
Registered: Jul 99

posted 11-28-2000 03:24 PM

Hello John at Kodak.
Gloucester Cinema 1-2-3.

I wonder this cinema will apply for the Screen Check in the future?

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John Pytlak
Film God

Posts: 9987
From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922
Registered: Jan 2000

posted 11-29-2000 06:01 AM

Hi Ben:

As I originally noted, there is nothing wrong with using opaque tape or cardboard around the ports to keep stray light off the screen. But it should NOT replace properly sized apertures. Projecting without an aperture allows lots of additional non-image light (from the soundtrack and edges of the film) to enter the lens --- this stray light reduces the contrast of the projected image.

Standard SMPTE 195 specifies the projectable image area for 35mm prints. Correct image size should always be verified using the SMPTE 35-PA (RP 40) Projector Alignment test film.

Incorrect image size or excessive stray light are severely penalized in the Kodak ScreenCheck Experience program, and this theatre would likely fail certification until this problem is corrected.

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John Wilson
Film God

Posts: 5438
From: Sydney, Australia.
Registered: Dec 1999

posted 11-29-2000 04:29 PM

IMAX uses the cardboard on the port. Works just fine...although there is no automation to change it from top deck to bottom deck...

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Carl King
Expert Film Handler

Posts: 199
From: Saint John, New Brunswick, Canada
Registered: Mar 2000

posted 11-29-2000 09:35 PM

I've never heard of anything so stupid in my life.

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Sean McKinnon
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1712
From: Peabody Massachusetts
Registered: Sep 2000

posted 12-01-2000 02:04 PM

Well I just got an E-Mail calling me a "little inconsiderate son of a bitch" because they were nice enough to do me the favor of letting me into the booth and I posted this article! Hey, Sorry! why dont you register and posta reply here explaining why you do this? be constructive hey you know what maybe someone woulda sent you a couple old aperature plates. The whole cinema industry on the NOrth Shore already knew you guys did that I wanted to see for myself. as I said IT LOOKS FINE ON SCREEN! if your ashamed of it or something then try talking to your owners anf convince them to get aperature plates PRINT OUT THIS THREAD AND USE IT TO BACK UP YOUR ARGUMENT! and I apologize if I sounded negative I forgot to mention that the lobby was very clean. and They have new seats.

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Scott Norwood
Film God

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From: Boston, MA. USA (1774.21 miles northeast of Dallas)
Registered: Jun 99

posted 12-01-2000 03:05 PM

I can just see someone making the budget decisions for this place: "gee...let's see...we can spend $6 apiece on aperture plates (2-4x per projector) and maybe $20 for a file or we can spend $35-200 apiece on seats (several hundred per screen); what should we buy this year? I vote for the seats and $2 for a roll of masking tape!"

That isn't to say that seats are unimportant (I hate uncomfortable theatre seats), but any place that can afford new seats and installation of same ought to be able to splurge on new sets of aperture plates.

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Gordon McLeod
Film God

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From: Toronto Ontario Canada
Registered: Jun 99

posted 12-01-2000 05:46 PM

Most of the newer Imax machines actually have apperture plates fitted in the fieldflatner block
The older ones didn't mainly because the machine is fixed back about 3-4' from the port to allow the operator to walk in front to thread.

As such the image on the port is about 3' across making it much easier and sharper to tape the glass

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Sean McKinnon
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1712
From: Peabody Massachusetts
Registered: Sep 2000

posted 12-02-2000 01:51 AM

Hi I just want everyone on the forum to know that due to this post I have gotten many Rude E-Mails from people connected to this theatre ie:Your mama is so fat... Sorry mym mother abadoned me and is in florida

and my email account has boon "Spoofed" my e-mail adress has been added to hundreds of mailing lists however AOL has a block and sorry it didnt work!

I am so glad that this forum attracts so many intelligent and mature people but the few who arent bring the whole place down! Over one persons opinion of a theatre! HEY YOU KNOW WHAT? 2 screens in my theatre have top masing and a small scope picture! my theatre 7 has ashort throw distance and the lamp focusing is bad! all our platter decks are scratched,some of our policies, and moviephones are dirty! OH MYGOD! maybe I should sent nasty emails to myself! and put my name on 100+ mailing lists! give me a break! im sorry for the rant but this is sooo childish! and to the gloucester cinema I AM SORRY! but everyone elso on the forum seems to share my opinion!

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Randy Stankey
Film God

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From: Erie, Pennsylvania
Registered: Jun 99

posted 12-02-2000 01:48 PM

Just ignore the bastards!

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John Walsh
Film God

Posts: 2490
From: Connecticut, USA, Earth, Milky Way
Registered: Oct 1999

posted 12-02-2000 01:52 PM

Oh, I get it... they run a little too cheaply, but it's your fault for noticing it...

If that theater is reading this.......You're supposed to use aperture plates on projectors. That's why they make them. They are not "extra parts" that you can do without.

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Gordon McLeod
Film God

Posts: 9532
From: Toronto Ontario Canada
Registered: Jun 99

posted 12-02-2000 02:19 PM

Since they obviously lurk here then post the email addresses of the people who sent you the hate mail and all the pros

can send them directly their comments on taped appertures

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Evans A Criswell
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1579
From: Huntsville, AL, USA
Registered: Mar 2000

posted 12-02-2000 07:05 PM

If the employees at that theatre sent abusive email messages to you or in any way violated the policies that most ISPs have in place, send email to abuse@ the ISP's domain that they sent the mail from. I would also suggest writing a letter to the theatre company's home office concerning the matter and enclose printed copies of the abusive email messages.

Just because people do not agree with you does not give them the right to abuse you through email or inconvenience you by playing games with your email address (like putting you on mailing lists). It seems to me that this particular theatre you mentioned has a concentration of computer geeks, which I find rare around here in Huntsville.

Evans A Criswell
http://home.hiwaay.net/~criswell/theatre/

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Sean McKinnon
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1712
From: Peabody Massachusetts
Registered: Sep 2000

posted 12-03-2000 11:06 PM

Well it seems Ive made quite a mistake! The gloucester cinema does have aperture plates. They are just worn. They are waiting for replacements and new equipment. It is really a nice theatre. They do a great job of providing the people of the gloucester area a place to ge see movies inexpensivley. The staff and ownership do take great pride in the work they do and they try very hard to be the best they can. Its too bad not all theatres have the commitment and dedication that the gloucester cinema does then maybe the industry wouldnt be in all this trouble! also its not anyone with the theatre that had been sending me harrasing mail it was an ex employee! so my apologies to the gloucester cinema!

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