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Topic: Drive In Radio Sound (need help)
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David Kilderry
Master Film Handler

Posts: 355
From: Melbourne Australia
Registered: Sep 1999
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posted 12-12-2000 03:52 AM
FM stereo sound at the drive-in came in a little too late here in Australia to become widespread. It was first used in about 1983. In 1978 Cine-Fi AM came in and that was at least a small step forward.Of course today almost all remaining drive-ins use FM. There are several models to choose from made locally. The problem is with an unlicenced 50 milliwatt transmitter you are at the mercy of a new licence. Say you choose 91.1 FM and do all your slides and signage for that frequency, then a new licenced station opens up within 75 miles on the same frequency and before you know it on some nights you hear Slim Dusty instead of Mel Gibson! You can of course buy a 10 watt unit and blow anything else away, but that brings another set of problems - you affect others who have paid big $ for their licence. The key is to use a low power unit and choose a frequency that is in use already, but a long distance away. Your low power unit will be OK if the station is 150 - 200 miles away and they will not licence another station on the same frequency in the same state - applies to Australia anyway. I think I'll go down to the garage and seek out my original blue Cine-Fi hire radio. I wonder how many ramps still have Cine-Fi clips hanging on them??? David
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Chris Erwin
Expert Film Handler

Posts: 195
From: Olive Hill,KY
Registered: Oct 1999
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posted 12-13-2000 05:51 AM
Thanks for the info guys!Bill, the radio station I worked at has an old volumax on AM and an Optimod 8100A on the FM. Memories...... Has anyone heard of Broadcast Warehouse? They make a rack mount 100 mW FCC legal (part 15 reg.) transmitter for FM. About $300-400. Comet antenna for around $100. I keep hearing about a Skycaster unit. Anyone have info on this? I might go with an AM and FM config. (for redundancy-one blows up the other's similcasting) AM still looking...FM Decade? Still have plenty of time to look and shop. --Chris
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Gordon McLeod
Film God

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From: Toronto Ontario Canada
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 08-26-2002 11:10 PM
A couple of points you don't want a compressor since the procesor's A type and SR noise reduction is an expander and you will get pumpling and breathingRun the Dolby Cat69t taht is 50% modulated and set the gain stages for the transmitter to that and you will not have to worry about overmodulation Since the transmitter will be recieving Lt and Rt they will transmit the centre and surround channels in a standard matrix mode which some car units now decode
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Frank Angel
Film God

Posts: 5305
From: Brooklyn NY USA
Registered: Dec 1999
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posted 08-27-2002 12:16 AM
Dave said: >apparently inexpensive "Virtual Surround" processors are soon to be available. Originally intended for the home market, they apparently take the surround and channel it to similar (?) effect through simple L/R systems. Of course, this would be great for the drive-ins. Imagine if you will, "This drive-in is now radio-active in high-fidelity virtual drive-in surround sound!" <Sony has a consumer unit now out on the market - MDR-DS5100 Wireless Surround Headphones. It will take any encoded L/R outputs, as well as a 5.1 input; it then outputs a L/R signal that has been processed to create the Virtual Surround that Dave is talking about. Obstensibly its purpose is to broadcast the processed signal to its complimentary headset receiver, but the output is easily be sent to any line level input such as the FM stereo transmitter. The resultant processed signal creates a psychoacoustical soundfield that simulates 5.1 surround sound in any 2 channel playback system, be it the headset or a standard stereo car receiver. In the headset it sounds quite impressive, but I have heard this same system used in some TV sets and computer 2 channel playback system and even though it requires a person sit equidistant between the two speakers in the close-field "sweet spot," a car environement puts the occupants close enough to the sweet spot that surround effects will still be perceived. And you are totally right Dave, what a great marketing tool it would be to be able to claim that you are the first Drive-in in the world to have Dolby Virtual 5.1 Surround Sound! Throw this up on the screen using the Dolby Surround logo snipe and it will be the talk of the town. It should even get a few free newspaper stories written about it. Frank PS, In NYC, the Sony unit is available at J&R Music World.
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