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Dick Vaughan
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From: Bradford, West Yorkshire, UK
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In the UK prints rarely ,if ever, are shipped on reels. We get the parts in individual lab cans ususally in a transit case that holds 5 or 6 cans. Of course all the undersized parts rattle around.

The "best" example of bad practise in film handling is when we receive our regular Bollywood blockbuster . To find a core in the centre of a part is a rarity so you usually receive nice egg shaped lumps of film which have to be manipulated so that you can insert a core so you can just get it on a spindle.

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John Pytlak
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From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922
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Dick Vaughan said: ". To find a core in the centre of a part is a rarity so you usually receive nice egg shaped lumps of film which have to be manipulated so that you can insert a core so you can just get it on a spindle."

One idea to handle "core-less" rolls would be to glue a 1/2-inch (12mm) thickness of compressible plastic foam (e.g., the adhesive foam strips sold as weatherstripping for windows) around the circumference of a 2-inch (50mm) plastic film core. If you get a core-less roll, simply squeeze the foam-encircled core into the center of the roll, so it can be handled on a split-reel. Doing the same with a 3-inch (75mm) and 4-inch (100mm) plastic core would give a variety of diameters to suit the situation.

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Eastman Kodak Company
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Gordon McLeod
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Goldberg makes what they call the ASIAN split reel that has a collet like core that can be expanded or shrunk to fit.
My favorite Bollywood delivery was one that they had just wound the print onto a 5/16" spindle to save the hassel of popping the core

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John Pytlak
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Gordon said: "My favorite Bollywood delivery was one that they had just wound the print onto a 5/16" spindle to save the hassel of popping the core."

Is it any wonder that the beginning and end of each reel are sometimes full of dirt and cinch marks? "Doing Film Right" is simple common sense, which seems to be sorely lacking in some quarters.

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John P. Pytlak, Senior Technical Specialist
Worldwide Technical Services, Entertainment Imaging
Eastman Kodak Company
Research Labs, Building 69, Room 7419
Rochester, New York, 14650-1922 USA
Tel: 716-477-5325 Cell: 716-781-4036 Fax: 716-722-7243
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Gordon McLeod
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I did send it back with cores and 3 weeks later got the same print back with no cores and the same careless handling

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Leo Enticknap
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Further to Dick Vaughan's post there is a particular curse which (hopefully) only affects the UK. It's a green moulded plastic case with three parallel slots, each of which holds two reels (wound round a core and in a lab can) side by side, in which about half the release prints shipped round the UK seem to be transported. If the print consists of an even number of reels, no problem. If it doesn't, then unless you take care to pack the odd reel in with bits of cardboard, bubble wrap or similar, it gets jostled around like mad. Seven-reel prints are especially annoying, as they occupy two of these large boxes, one of which contains only a single can...

Relating to the discussion earlier on packing off etiquette, I tend to rejoin heads and tails to the picture on the base side only. The thinking behind this is that a tape join is necessary to prevent abrasion between the leader and picture when it is wound tight, but that 99% of future users will be running the print on a platter, tower or 6,000 foot spools, so joining both sides is pointless. Besides, anyone who is running single reels with changeovers will want to inspect the head and tail joins themselves, so they might as well make the type of join that works best with their projector (i.e. butt or overlap) while they're doing so.

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