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John Eickhof
Jedi Master Film Handler

Posts: 588
From: Wendell, ID USA
Registered: Jan 2000


 - posted 01-12-2001 12:17 AM      Profile for John Eickhof   Author's Homepage   Email John Eickhof   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I have to agree with Mark, I am NOT a film handler, nor am I part of the star wars saga!
I am a professional in the service & maintenece business! (Granted, I started from
the bottom as a projectionist) But I think titles pertaining to a person's vocation would allow others to know better who they are conversing with. I can not see how
difficult it would be to tag each member
with their vocation, you have image tags now,
I am all for... Chief Projectionist, Manager
Projectionist, Assistant, Techician, Film collectro, Slave, etc....

Just my 2 bits! Keep up the great work Brad!

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Brad Miller
Administrator

Posts: 17775
From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall)
Registered: May 99


 - posted 01-12-2001 12:42 AM      Profile for Brad Miller   Author's Homepage   Email Brad Miller       Edit/Delete Post 
The image tags have to be individually hand coded into the program for it to work. An image is a one time thing. Trying to put people's status is another, as many times it changes or people refer to themselves as "tech" when perhaps they are a "projectionist". There are profiles that each person can keep up with on their own, but ideally I think John Pytlak is the best example of what dealers, manufacturers, etc should do. Just look at one of his posts and read his "signature". The forum program is already set up to handle this. All each person needs to do is click on "profile" and enter a signature and check the box to "show signature" when they post.

Since I'm starting to ramble, allow me to clarify. My real point to this posting is that the titles themselves can be changed, more can be added, they can be dropped altogether, but as far as giving specific people specific titles, that's not going to be a possibility.

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Sean M. Grimes
Expert Film Handler

Posts: 247
From: Lunenburg, MA
Registered: Apr 2000


 - posted 01-12-2001 02:03 AM      Profile for Sean M. Grimes   Author's Homepage   Email Sean M. Grimes   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
coming from a peasant film handler. Keep them as they are. Goddamn.


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Chris Erwin
Expert Film Handler

Posts: 195
From: Olive Hill,KY
Registered: Oct 1999


 - posted 01-12-2001 06:33 AM      Profile for Chris Erwin   Email Chris Erwin   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Just my .02....

The titles are no big deal to me, nor do I think it matters much to most people. (though is was cool to reach 100...but I didn't pad my posts just to see "Expert"-I'll let my audiences make that call if I am or not! )If you cruised the posts you could tell who's who.
If there is a problem with them, drop em', we don't need the extra work or worry.

Keep up the good job Brad!

--Chris

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Mark DeLettera
Film Handler

Posts: 54
From: Venice, Florida
Registered: Aug 1999


 - posted 01-12-2001 06:41 AM      Profile for Mark DeLettera   Email Mark DeLettera   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
As long as the titles don't reflect on ones' expertise, you may as well keep them and even maybe add a few, just for fun.

Being a technician at Kodak I will always be a "Film Handler" (and proud of it), no matter what my title is on Film-Tech Forums. As long as we all remain "FILM" handlers! when we start seeing titles such as "Digital Signal Downloaders" under our names... that's when I'll need to retire!

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Mark DeLettera
Eastman Kodak Co.
Worldwide Technical Svs.
Rochester, NY
mark.delettera@kodak.com
716-588-4189

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John Walsh
Film God

Posts: 2490
From: Connecticut, USA, Earth, Milky Way
Registered: Oct 1999


 - posted 01-12-2001 07:41 AM      Profile for John Walsh   Email John Walsh   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Perhaps there could simply be a note when registering; "Titles are based on number of postings, not actual experince." - or something like that.

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Mark Gulbrandsen
Resident Trollmaster

Posts: 16657
From: Music City
Registered: Jun 99


 - posted 01-12-2001 08:09 AM      Profile for Mark Gulbrandsen   Email Mark Gulbrandsen   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
John,
Thats my whole point! Several people I have tried to talk into posting and taking part in these threads are a bit put off by the titles, and perhaps rightfully so. These people have forgotten more than we all know! It would be beneficial for all of us, for them to join us here. Personally I'd love to know who out there has 30 or 40 plus years of experience....wouldn't you? For instance, one of these people is a good friend of our modeator. He has signed up, but made very few posts. This person is extremely knowledgable in all aspects of projection and has at least several decades of experience. A couple of others I know also feel the same way. I'm just voicing their opinion for all of you as to why they are not here. Although they may lurk a bit it would be better to have the lurkers take part.
Mark @ GTS
Mark

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Greg Mueller
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1687
From: Port Gamble, WA
Registered: Jun 99


 - posted 01-12-2001 08:18 AM      Profile for Greg Mueller   Author's Homepage   Email Greg Mueller   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Mark
Sounds like a not very good excuse for not wanting to post. Think about it....
"I'd post except I don't like those SW titles"
God if it's going to get all stuffy and serious, that might drive off a few who love to be whimsical and light hearted.

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Greg Mueller
Amateur Astronomer, Machinist, Filmnut

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Jerry Chase
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1068
From: Margate, FL, USA
Registered: Nov 2000


 - posted 01-12-2001 09:05 AM      Profile for Jerry Chase   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Call me what you want, just don't call me late for supper.

Actually, I have more of a problem with the new photos. Although I like the pictures, I am having some problems reading posts on the longer threads because the pictures keep kicking the writing down as they load in on my 56K dialup. I think a gallery of thumbnails linked to mug shots might work better, but I know that would be some work for you.

You could reverse the names so that Jedi Handler or whatever comes first. I was actually thinking more along the lines of:
Revered Master of Film Knowledge (1 to 20 posts)
Knows Film (21 to 50 posts)
Thinks he knows film (50 to 100 posts)
Not sure what he knows (100 to 200 posts)
Total blathering idiot! (200+ posts)

Anyone whose been in the business for a while knows that this is the true state of affairs. The more we learn, the more we understand just how little we know. By setting the titles this way, those in the know are least likely to be offended, while those who think they know everything get the ego boost.

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Martin Frandsen
Master Film Handler

Posts: 270
From: Denmark, Europe
Registered: Jun 99


 - posted 01-12-2001 10:25 AM      Profile for Martin Frandsen   Email Martin Frandsen   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I Vote for Jerry's idea! - just kidding

Let's keep the titels as they are.

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Martin Frandsen
Film crazy!, Big 70mm fan!

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Aaron Sisemore
Flaming Ribs beat Reeses Peanut Butter Cups any day!

Posts: 3061
From: Rockwall TX USA
Registered: Sep 1999


 - posted 01-12-2001 11:11 AM      Profile for Aaron Sisemore   Email Aaron Sisemore   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
It doesnt matter either way as far as the titles go.. Of course theyre silly, but is there anything wrong with having a little fun now and then, especially in this business these days? I also agree with a short and sweet 'disclaimer' to avoid any potential misinformation.

Idea #2: instead of a 'film handler' title, the people here that are official or semi-official manufacturer's representatives (John Pytlak, Pat Moore, Oscar N, Karen Hultgren, etc) *SHOULD* have a permanent (doesnt change with number of posts) title of 'Manufacturer's Rep.' so that some newbies might be MORE encouraged to ask questions about tech problems with the aforementioned reps' products.

Aaron

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John Walsh
Film God

Posts: 2490
From: Connecticut, USA, Earth, Milky Way
Registered: Oct 1999


 - posted 01-12-2001 11:13 AM      Profile for John Walsh   Email John Walsh   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Actually, I like Jerry's idea, too!

Not to beat a dead horse (but I'll do it anyway ), but I'm confused as to exactly what the feeling is....

If the complaint is: "I don't want a 'SW' reference in my title." - then I would say; "It's just joke - don't worry about it."
There's only one title that has a "SW" reference in it; "Jedi Master Film Handler."

On the other hand if the reason is, (the same thing that happened awhile ago) that someone feels their experince should automatically grant them a higher title, having titles like Operator, Head-Operator, or Technician will be a moot point, because the same arguements will apply.

Generally, I think we have alot of fun here, whether or not there are titles - that's why I dont care if they stay or go.

Also, (while theoretically possible) I've never seen anyone "pad" their posts to get a higher title.

Regardless of titles or number of postings, anyone who makes interesting, knowedgable comments has my respect.

For reference, the titles are (I think):
Administrator
Phenomenal Film Handler (This should be the Gordon Award)
Jedi Master Film Handler
Expert Film Handler
Film Handler

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Paul G. Thompson
The Weenie Man

Posts: 4718
From: Mount Vernon WA USA
Registered: Nov 2000


 - posted 01-12-2001 11:27 AM      Profile for Paul G. Thompson   Email Paul G. Thompson   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Leave them as they are.

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Mike Blakesley
Film God

Posts: 12767
From: Forsyth, Montana
Registered: Jun 99


 - posted 01-12-2001 05:46 PM      Profile for Mike Blakesley   Author's Homepage   Email Mike Blakesley   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Leave the titles. They are fun.

If you are having complaints about the Star Wars thing, then just take out Jedi Master and replace it. How about "Super Duper Film Handler?" Or something like "Total Internet Junkie?"

I do agree that the manufacturer's reps should have some special title, or at least they should be strongly encouraged to put a full business card's worth of information in their signature, the way the Kodak guys do.

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John Eickhof
Jedi Master Film Handler

Posts: 588
From: Wendell, ID USA
Registered: Jan 2000


 - posted 01-12-2001 11:47 PM      Profile for John Eickhof   Author's Homepage   Email John Eickhof   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Thanks Brad! That was a 'piece of cake!' I think the signature is a great idea, here again to help people know just who they are conversing with!! As for the other titles,
no biigy, I guess I'll just have to keep pluggin away and find more time between work to post on the site!!!

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John Eickhof Pres.
Northwest Theatre Equipment Co., Inc.

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