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Ari Nordström
Master Film Handler

Posts: 283
From: Göteborg, Sweden
Registered: Jan 2000

posted 02-16-2001 10:59 AM

David,

I just wanted to say that I admire your dedication. I hope, against hope (I've been there, in a situation like yours, and it seemed that nothing I did or said mattered), that things will work out in the end.

Good luck.

Ben Wales
Jedi Master Film Handler

Posts: 602
From: Southampton. England
Registered: Jul 99

posted 02-16-2001 04:17 PM

I only hope that the now confirmed cinemas in the UK to screen the "2001- A Space Odyssey" in 70mm will treat this print with extra care and that all projectionists are fully trained to show 70mm film, it will be a great shame that this print also gets damaged as has happened in the past!.

Per Hauberg
Jedi Master Film Handler

Posts: 883
From: Malling, Denmark
Registered: Jul 2000

posted 02-17-2001 05:18 PM

My english may not be good enough to put this correct - but i try to make myself clear:

If the choise is between keeping the 70mm print OR the in-booth-manager without scratches, i'll certainly go for saving the print, but on the other hand; if somebody does not like his job or the company paying his sallery, i think he's free to quit, at least outside China.

All right to be concerned - but be loyal, too - meaning: don't shit in your own nest. Those 32 hours of yours, i'm afraid, also were 32 hours, before you made the deal with the distributor.

Randy Stankey
Film God

Posts: 6539
From: Erie, Pennsylvania
Registered: Jun 99

posted 02-17-2001 05:54 PM

I agree that film isn't, and shouldn't be a manager's job.

It's just that I don't even think that people "respect" film anymore. I really think many people just think film is a "throw-away" item. They don't even seem to take the time to think about what it is they are doing when they thread up a projector. They might as well be threading up TOILET PAPER!

Ned Fairbairn
Film Handler

Posts: 4
From: Los Angeles, CA, USA
Registered: Feb 2001

posted 02-17-2001 05:56 PM

I work in Projection in Hollywood Ca.Been a good Union man for many years. Have run a LOT of 70mm. The fact that theatre chains don't want to deal with 70mm and have managed to eliminate it from the scene may be coming to an end. There are RUMORS that 70mm MAY be making a comeback. Movies such as "Pearl Harbor" would be BETTER in 70mm!!SMILE!

Aaron Haney
Master Film Handler

Posts: 265
From: Cupertino, CA, USA
Registered: Jan 2001

posted 02-19-2001 03:57 AM

Ned, that's a very interesting rumor. Are you saying that there are plans for some 70mm prints of "Pearl Harbor"? If so, that would be very, very exciting.

However, "Pearl Harbor" is being produced and distrubted by Disney's Touchstone company, and we all know how Disney feels about film. They will probably want to use this movie to show off digital projection, rather than 70mm.

On the other hand, money talks; and Michael Bay's movies have certainly made a lot of money. So in all probability, if he wants 70mm, he gets 70mm. I can certainly imagine Bay preferring to go with 70mm rather than digital. Recall how in "The Rock" Nicolas Cage holds up a vinyl LP of the Beatles and declares, "These sound better!" Bay seems like one of those people who likes to stick with high-quality analog rather than digital.

Even more interesting would be if "Pearl Harbor" were shown in both 70mm and digital projection, giving audiences a chance to do a side-by-side comparison. That would be much better than today's worst-case scenarios which proponents of digital use to puff up their arguments. Let people see just how good film really can look so they will know what they're going to be missing when digital takes over.

Perhaps that's not what you meant, and I'm reading too much into your post, but it would be interesting (to say the least) if this rumor turns out to be true.
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Christopher Seo
Jedi Master Film Handler

Posts: 530
From: Los Angeles, CA
Registered: Jun 99

posted 02-20-2001 03:15 AM

Unfortunately, "Pearl Harbor" wasn't shot in 65mm, just 35mm anamorphic. I very much doubt a 70mm release but do have hopes they'll go with dye-transfer. I remember hearing a rumor here (I think) a while ago that Disney's "Atlantis" might get a 70mm release-- any substance to that?

Aaron Haney
Master Film Handler

Posts: 265
From: Cupertino, CA, USA
Registered: Jan 2001

posted 02-20-2001 03:36 AM

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Unfortunately, "Pearl Harbor" wasn't shot in 65mm, just 35mm anamorphic.

Yes, I know. But I'd still love to see some 70mm blow-ups. I'm sure any such prints would end up being DTS instead of mag stripe, since that's less expensive.

70mm may have fallen out of favor with the bean counters, but surely it's not impossible for someone with clout to get 70mm prints made even today. After all, James Cameron did it with Titanic, which wasn't even shot in 35mm anamorphic; it was Super-35, but people still said the prints looked great. (Unfortunately, I didn't get to see one myself.) Of course, Cameron had to pay out of his own pocket to do it...

Darryl Spicer
Film God

Posts: 3250
From: Lexington, KY, USA
Registered: Dec 2000

posted 02-20-2001 09:07 AM

Hey! If Disney can release Beauty and the Beast in IMAX, then I do not see why it can't release Pearl Harbor or Atlantis in standard 70mm process. One thing to remember is that the most expensive part of the process is the magnetic striping of the soundtracks. I know Atlantis will be a scope (anamorphic) release. I wonder if it was done using the technirama process or computers.

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