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Christos Mitsakis
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I hope you will find these enlighting.

According to "Wide Screen Movies" by R.E. Carr and R.M.Hayes, McFarland & Co, 1988:

Sensurround
Developed by MCA and RCA under guidance of former Universal Studios sound dept. head Waldon O. Watson.
....for 35mm engagements prints were offered in three different formats:
a) MagOptical (3 channel mag. stereo + 1 optical for sensurround info).
b) MagOptical (1 mag channel of mono dialog, music, effects + 1 optical for sensurround info).
c) Single track optical with all sound info.

For 70mm prints six mag tracks were employed in the same manner as MegaSound [probably other name for the Dolby Baby Boom].
Sensurround changed with each feature even though the soundtrack pattern was followed as noted. "Earthquake" had only rumbles in the Sensurround info. "Midway" included also sound effects. "Rollercoaster" incorporated music along with rumble and effects; and "Zoot Suit" which introduced Sensuround Plus utilized the full system plus Lightsurround, a synced light cueing system for in-auditorium effects.

....Filmography:
in Sensurround:
"Eartquake" (1974)
"Midway" (1976)
"King kong" (1976)(in Sensurround only outside US)
"Rollercoaster" (1977)
"Battlestar Galactica" (1978)

In Sensurround Plus:
"Zoot Suit" (1981)

In Feelarama in Europe only
"Krakatoa East of Java aka Volcano (1975?)

In Vibrasound
"Das Boot" (1982)

Feelarama and Vibrasound were variations of Sensurround. [No further info supplied]

Regards
Christos.


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Rick Long
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Shortly after leaving the projection booth to become a technician, I got to assist in the installation of Sensurround for "Earthquake" at the Fairlawn, Toronto. (35MM mag.) As John points out, the surround track was used to trigger the effects.

I also got to set-up a number of the optical 35MM presentations in Ontario. As I recall, three loops were provided with the set-up kit;
35 Hz (used to connect the internal SD5747 "earthquake generator card) to the Cerwin-Vega amps,
25 HZ with 400 HZ tone (used to set the screen channel for double the voltage going to the screen speaker) (necessary because the earthquake effect would otherwise drown out screen dialogue),
and I'll be damned if I can recall what the other loop did.

The dbx process was not used in Earthquake, but was used in Midway, Roller-Coaster and Battlestar Galactica. Unlike the Sensurround I system for Earthquake, (which had its own internal noise generator) the Sensurround II system amplified effects on the sound track. It also gave the abiltiy to direct the effects to the front and or rear speakers.

By the time Battlestar Gallactica (released in Canada, AFAIK only in French) they had dramatically improved on the recordings. The dramatic effects were replaced by, for the most part, much more subtle ones. In the interior shot of the ship increasing speed, for example, you could feel the slight vibrations on the theatre floor.

There were, of course, numerous tales associated with the running of this print, such as the elderly lady who lived behind the Fairlawn, complaining to the Toronto Transit Commission that they were running their subways especially loud at 8:00.

Aha! I just remembered the third loop. This was the "shake-down test" in which you were supposed to examine theatre light fixtures, and anything set on an elevated horizontal surface (vases, ect.) for the possibility of things coming loose and falling on someone. It did a real number on any old incandescent bulbs too!

At the Fairlawn (by this time made into a piggy-back dual) during the presentation of Roller-Coaster, it was found that in either theatre, the Sensurround noise would intrude into the sound of the other theatre. The only option was to run the picture simultaneously in both houses. The problem was that the upper booth used Cinemeccanica Vic 10's while the lower one used Century CC's. Although both were equipped with sync motors, it was necessary that both shows start at exactly the same time. As both houses were reel-to-reel, the projectionists (one in each booth) used headphones to call out their motor-start cues.


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Mike Blakesley
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"FEELARAMA?" LOL Sounds like a bad '70s porn flick.

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Darryl Spicer
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please stay for our next feature DEEP THROAT

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Thomas Hauerslev
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In Denmark, cinemas showing Sensurround films, had to sign a contract saying, that any complaints (about the side effects), must be answered by the cinema, not the film distributor. The distributor took no responsibilty for any damage to buildings or the audience caused by Sensurround.

Did distributors elsewhere do the same thing?

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John Walsh
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Why, the distributors do that for everything...

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Paul Linfesty
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Ijn the United States, adisclaimer appeared before the films thate stated (if memory is correct) EARTHQUAKE:
Attention! Earthquake is presented in the startling new dimension of Sensurround. You will FEEL, as well as see and hear realistic effects such as might be experienced during an actual earthquake. The management assumes no responsibility for the individual reaction of the viewer."

MIDWAY:

(a more polite) Your Attention Please! Midway is presented in the startling new dimension of Sensurround. Please be aware that you will feel, as well as see and hear, realistic effects that might be experienced in actual combat. the management assumes no responsibility......

ROLLERCOASTER:
( a generic intro)

Attention: THe following motion picture is presented in the startling (no "new") dimension of Sensurround. Please be aware that you will feel, as well as see and hear, realistic effect. the management assumes no responsibility...

Theatre stories: Chinese (EARTHQUAKE) had a huge net covering their ceiling for this showing (per the LA Times review).

GCC Ghiradelli Square, SF ROLLERCOASTER: A glassworks store above the theatre had lots of glass objects shattered the first show (a very bizarre configuration...one ot the two entrances to the theatre was through this shop (with down staircase).

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Paul Linfesty
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BTW, Megasound used some of the same Cerwin Vega units that had been used for Sensurround.

Sensurround Plus was used with the movie Zoot Suit and used DBX encoding throuhgout the whole film (this was the only Sensurround advertised film in the US to feature 70mm prints.

Here is a link to a correction to the Carrs and Hayes information on ensurround (these two get MANY facts jumbled up and should probably not be used as a reference). http://members.aol.com/filmteknik/wsmc12.rtf


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David Kilderry
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I recall seeing Battlestar Galactica in Sensurround at Village East End One in 1978 here in Melbourne Australia. The most impressive effect was when the fighters took off from Galactica. As they accelerated out of the tubes it was if you were being launched out with them! It was only the second time I wanted to see a movie twice (the first being Star Wars).

When I was employed to pull this complex apart in 1986, all the Sensurround gear was still installed, including all the original MCA Universal instructions on the wall. The projectors were Cinemeccanica Victoria 8 70mm. I recall being told that the building was checked for structural damage after several Sensurround seasons.

Wish I had seen Rollercoaster too.

David

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Gordon McLeod
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I have yet to find the patent info on megasound though I know Eventide clockwork co made the bass synth units for it
Ass for Carr and Co. there notes arn't worth the paper they were on

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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I have a Sensurround 2 unit if anyone needs one to run a film. Still in the box!
Mark @ GTS

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Mitchell Dvoskin
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I saw both Battlestar Galatica and Rollercoaster in the old UA Fox Theatre in Hackensack, NJ. The theatre was an old 1800 seat Egyption Art Deco with an awsome balcony. Sensurround presentations ended when part of the plaster ceiling came crashing down during a showing of Rollercoaster. Nobody was hurt, but the fact that 10 seats got crushed spooked the management.

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It has been 2849 days since the last post.


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Blaine Young
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There was an additional sensurround release that I recall. In Japan they issued a film called "Mission Galactica: The Cylon Attack", which has Sensurround listed in the closing credits.

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Thomas Hauerslev
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In June 2010, the great Schauburg cinema in Karlsruhe, Germany will host a Sensurround weekend

http://www.in70mm.com/news/2010/sensurround/index.htm

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