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Steve Guttag
We forgot the crackers Gromit!!!

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From: Annapolis, MD
Registered: Dec 1999


 - posted 03-30-2001 09:52 PM      Profile for Steve Guttag   Email Steve Guttag   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Just about all of the projectors made today can have single lens holders instead of turrets...about 90% of all our installations are with single lens projectors regardless of manufacturer and most have more than just the basic Flat/Scope.

In fact, the Simplex PR-1014 has even been improved a bit in the last couple of years....the intermittent shoe is now mounted on a sub-assembly so it can be more precisely adjusted to mate up with the intermittent once the gate closure depth has been properly optimized. With single lens systems, you can still get one of my favorite options, the fire douser...if the machine isn't running up to speed...no light passes though.

As to the advantages of turrets....

Sure there is concern over dropping lenses but how about people installing the lenses correctly or twisting the scope attachment as they slam and twist the lens into prosition?

With turrets you can adjust for keystoning to some degree without a PC adapter so both or all three images are centered. If you have top only masking (not that I am advocating the practice) you can accomodate the shift in vertical center with the turret.

I much prefer single lens machines and all of the turrets advantages can be negated with the appropiate apparatus with the single lens and a competent operator.

However, it is not the manufacturers that are "pushing" the turrets on the exhibitors it is the exhibitors that buy what they feel suits them best and the manufacturers are simply supplying what they want. If the exhibitors want turrets, then the manufacturers will make turrets...it is that simple.

Steve

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Michael Cunningham
Expert Film Handler

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From: Anchorage, AK
Registered: Nov 1999


 - posted 03-31-2001 07:29 AM      Profile for Michael Cunningham   Email Michael Cunningham   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
It seems I have mispoken myself, to judge by the umbrage taken at my earlier post. I did not intend to portray manufacturers as "pushing" the turret design down our throats. I was just mentioning that it had been a long time since I had seen a new single-lens projector installed and was curios as to whether they were still made on a regular basis.

-Mike

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John Walsh
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From: Connecticut, USA, Earth, Milky Way
Registered: Oct 1999


 - posted 03-31-2001 01:47 PM      Profile for John Walsh   Email John Walsh   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Also, it was only recently that trailers were widely-made avaiable in both flat and scope. Also, policy and company logo snipes may have been done in only one format.

I do think the advantages of turrets make them a worthwhile purchase.

I do not know why on the Simplex with a turret, you don't get the safety-fire shutter. To me, it is a very important feature, especially with less-experienced people in the booth. I'm guessing that when they tried to fit the auto aperture changer in there, the safety-fire shutter was in the way. I feel it should have been retained, regardless of any engineering problems.

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Steffan Laugharne
Film Handler

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From: Biggleswade, Beds, UK
Registered: Apr 2001


 - posted 04-08-2001 10:14 AM      Profile for Steffan Laugharne   Email Steffan Laugharne   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Greetings All

I have been involved with cinema in the UK for the last 20 years. Nearly every multiplex in the UK has a twin turret. Over here, screen advertising (Pearl & Dean / Carlton Screen Advertising) is exhibited before the trailers. All screen advertising is in 1.85:1. Occasionally we get 'scope trailers attached to the start of features, but in the majority of cinemas, they are removed, and a non-anamorphic version is substituted in the 'ads and trailers' package. Even the American company National Amusements, who have about 15 theatres in the UK follow the 'UK norm' of screening advets prior to the trailers. I guess the revenue makes it all worth while. I know, when I used to run the cinema at my University we used to get about £7000 a year for screening ads. How come this doesn't occur in the States? Or does it? I'd be interested to hear your comments.

Steff

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Ian Price
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From: Denver, CO
Registered: Jun 99


 - posted 04-08-2001 02:00 PM      Profile for Ian Price   Email Ian Price   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Steffan-

Many theatres run slides before the feature. some even run rolling stock ads, but they aren't nearly as good as the ones made for the British cinema. I sort of like your system.

I run a 5-screen art house and we don't run any ads at all. With our fine tradition of advertising on television we feel that we provide a refuge from the advertising world. Our patrons tell us that they appriciate this. We do run trailers for our upcoming films.

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