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William Hooper
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From: Mobile, AL USA
Registered: Jun 99


 - posted 04-20-2001 01:26 AM      Profile for William Hooper   Author's Homepage   Email William Hooper   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
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Coke also works good to free rusted pistons in Harley-Davidson motorcycles....Dump a bottle of coke in each cylinder, wait 12 hours, and the pistons practically fall out.

If you look at the ingredients in Coca-Cola, you will see that it contains phosphoric acid. Very diluted of course, Coca Cola being mostly water. "Generic" sodas used to be called "Phosphates" at soda fountains, as in "I'd like a Cherry Phosphate".

Phosphoric Acid reacts with rust; if there is enough phosphoric acid to make the reaction complete, all the rust is depleted.

Phosphoric acid + rust -> iron phosphate + water

Iron phospate does *not* react with water. It is very inert, & many folks think of it as a primer-type substance (if you sand the excess powdery amount away), it does hold most paints well.

You can do better than coke by just buying phosporic acid at Home Depot or wherever; it generally goes by names like Ospho or Ph-Ospho-Ric.

It's an indespensable repair/restoration tool. And it doesn't contain all the sugars that Coke has, which cause problems of their own!


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Gregory N. Jones
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I work for Neumade Products and our Renovex cleaning solution used to use the Trichloroethane. We have found that the best replacement for Trichlor is Dichloro-1-Fluoroethane. It doesn't quite dry as quickly as the Tri did but it seems to work very well. Our new RenovexII has the Dichloro in it.

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Randy Stankey
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 - posted 04-21-2001 01:28 AM      Profile for Randy Stankey   Email Randy Stankey   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Also, don't forget that just plain carbonated water contains carbonic acid just from the reaction of the CO2 with the water. Yes, it's a very weak acid and it would also be in very dilute quantities but in combination with the phosphoric acid it could produce a little bit of a one-two punch when it comes to removing crud from parts. Especially when it comes to hard water scale.

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John Pytlak
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 - posted 04-22-2001 07:08 AM      Profile for John Pytlak   Author's Homepage   Email John Pytlak   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
AFAIK, the products sold for cleaning calcium deposits and rust stains on bathroom tiles (e.g., Lime Away, CLR) also contain dilute phosphoric acid, as does "Naval Jelly".

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Worldwide Technical Services, Entertainment Imaging
Eastman Kodak Company
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