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Bobby Henderson
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From: Lawton, OK, USA
Registered: Apr 2001


 - posted 05-11-2001 07:42 PM      Profile for Bobby Henderson   Email Bobby Henderson   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I don't know why anyone would want to keep DTS discs. Like others posting in this discussion, I have found the discs to do really nothing in an ordinary PC. The MS-DOS batch file tries to run after double clicking the dts.exe file. The only thing I found of interest were which exhibitors had their own fanfare included on the actual movie discs.

The only thing I have been intriqued enough to copy is the graphical layout printed on the disc in CorelDRAW format. I'm a computer graphic artist on top of being a nut about this film-tech stuff, so my collection of logos has really added up.

I can understand an theater operator slipping up on a rare occaision and not putting the discs back into the cans when the print is returned. But being careless about it is not only ignorant, it is downright selfish. I don't know what the discs cost to make and how that averages in cost per theater, but I know it isn't free (a CD replication plant may charge you around $2500 for creating a glass and stamper master set for mass replication, with the replicated discs maybe costing anywhere from pennies a disc to over $1 per disc depending on how many you get made).

Another poster commented about the separate discs being a weakness for DTS and how that makes Dolby Digital superior. I disagree. The dual system format makes DTS easily compatible with just about any motion picture film format in existence. The separate discs also allow DTS to run at a much milder ratio of lossy data compression than Dolby Digital. (SR*D theatrical runs at only 320kb/s versus the 820kb/s rate for DTS theatrical). IMHO, that makes DTS sound consistently better. And then you have the reliability factor. I still see lots of Dolby Digital systems skipping out to analog at reel changes. DTS can ride through really worn out prints with little problem at all.

Sound on film formats will eventually be a thing of the past, especially if the movie theater industry moves to any "next-generation" audio formats for film (which would likely entail uncompressed LPCM at anywhere from 8 to 12 channels). You can print that kind of data load directly on a filmstrip.

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Brad Miller
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From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall)
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Joe, I was thinking more along the lines of storing the most recent 30 films and then being able to do the "for a day" thing for rep films that are not delivered with discs.

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James R. Hammonds, Jr
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From: Houston, TX, USA
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 - posted 05-12-2001 01:59 AM      Profile for James R. Hammonds, Jr   Email James R. Hammonds, Jr   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
<<BTW is "Chocolat" being re-released again or something? I had to build up a print of that last night- it was a used print in about the worst condition I've ever seen one delivered (thanks, Technicolor! ) but amazingly, the DTS discs came with it and they work. Has anyone gotten scratched-up or dirty DTS discs? What happens when you try to use them?>>

I dont know what the deal is with chocolat.
Thisis the fourth time we have played this film.

We lost it right after the saward, got it back a week later, lost it again, got it back about two weeks later, lost it a week or two ago, and here it is again.

The print was scratched all over the place (which i reported to technicolor), but it did have disks.
Since we dont run dts, i didnt bother to look at the disks and left them in the can where tey belong.

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Jonathan Haglund
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 - posted 05-12-2001 04:04 AM      Profile for Jonathan Haglund   Author's Homepage   Email Jonathan Haglund   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I just got Chocolat again as well, no DTS discs though. It replaces The Forsaken, whose attendance dropped to zero. Chocolat is beating that, though still having the least attendance. I believe it is just a place holder that can make a little money whilst we wait for next weak hoping not to get another disappointing Knight's Tale experience.

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Bobby Henderson
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My friend Jack just had "Chocolat" booked again at his Carmike theater, and did get the DTS discs with the print. I guess having 7 of 8 screens equipped with DTS helps. He says the print came in for Mother's Day.

He's put me on notice that he may need a late night CD-burning done when he gets his prints of "Pearl Harbor." The higher ups want him to interlock two prints of the film across four screens. He has to special order two sets of DTS discs per print, and if things get screwed up and he winds up with only one set of discs per print he'll need extra copies. No sweat for me really. My burner can CD-copy four discs in about 30 minutes. All four screens need to have digital sound showings of "Pearl Harbor", especially with the new stadium seated 12-plex across town in Central Mall opening up that weekend with "Pearl Harbor" (this new Dickinson build will reportedly have 2 DTS and 10 Dolby Digital screens). Jack's theater may not have statium seating, but his screens are bigger, auditoriums are larger and his sound systems will probably still be the best in this area.

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Scott Norwood
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From: Boston, MA. USA (1774.21 miles northeast of Dallas)
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For the person who needs the CD caddies: any computer store should have these for a couple of dollars apiece. They're a standard item. DTS probably sells them, too.

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