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Jason Black
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Someone mentioned that there are those here who may have already seen the film..

Has anyone actually SEEN the film? From what I was told, they only offered screenings of 20 minutes at ShoWest. I wasn't there myself, so I have no validity of the comment.

It would seem strange, however, that they would add in 28 minutes of footage ONE WEEK prior to playdate. Makes me think again that it just won't have strong multiple returns from viewers.

To John P: Thanks for the awesome suggestion of having PH survivors or WW-II vets in the lobbies to "relive" the truth.

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Tal Marks
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 - posted 05-20-2001 06:59 PM      Profile for Tal Marks   Author's Homepage   Email Tal Marks   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I saw this movie four times in a 24 hour period. the quick rundown:
1 am - print arrives
3 am - print is plattered & started
6:02:55 am - show ends (this was just the initial run-through)
10:30 am - advanced press screening #1
2 pm - special show for a dozen vets
7 pm - advanced press screening #2

I enjoyed the movie... the first time.
If I see it again... take cover.

I think this flick will do good especially here in NYC, people might feel like they finally got they're 10 bucks worth with a
3+ hour movie. I was personally satisfied with the main battle scene. Mixed for 8 channels, this is the first time at my theatre I was impressed by the SDDS (after it was tweaked for over an hour).

We have booked to open it on 5 screens (we're just a 12-plex) plus another few shows on our IMAX screen @ night.


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Christopher Seo
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Disney's world press junkets have just finished at my theatre (Waikiki Theatres). We ran a show for a small group of bombing survivors and Doolittle raiders, and there was some anxiety in getting it right for them. The very realistic special effects and 40-minute bombing sequence would be overwhelming to anyone, let alone someone who had lived through it. I heard they did cry, but liked it.

Since I haven't seen the movie proper (in the auditorium, uninterrupted) I won't really comment on it, but from the booth I got the sense it was actually two separate stories, a love story and a trademark Bay action flick. I can't complain about the gorgeous EK print, however. Still, dye transfer would have been better, but wasn't ready, and furthermore I am told the analog tracks on those will be silverless and therefore incompatible with tungsten readers.


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Bobby Henderson
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Back on the subject of intermissions, I can think of one modern movie that did have an intermission: "Gettysburg." But that film ran over 4 hours, required many theaters to build it up on two platters and the places showing it in DTS had to swap out discs during the intermission.

I personally like a programmed intermission, such as the ones in "Lawrence of Arabia" or "Spartacus". Not only is it going to give the theater a chance to make some extra money at the concession stand, it will also give me a chance to get to the bathroom without missing any of the show. Kind of a seventh inning stretch so to speak. I thought my bladder was going to burst during "Dances With Wolves"! I had to get up and miss part of a scene. The movie be damned. When I gotta pee, I gotta go pee.

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Rick Long
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Interesting you should mention that Bobby. I watched a trade screening of "Pearl Harbor" last week,after a T.A.P alignment. Although I have no credentials as a film critic, I will admit that I too suffered through "full bladder syndrome", waiting for the credits to roll, and judging from the line-up outside the washroom, I was not the only victim.

Later in the week, I discussed the movie with a manager of another theatre. The conversation drifted to a comparison of a similar movie made in the 70's, "Tora Tora Tora". He mentioned that it cost more to make that movie than it did for the Japaneese to launch the attack against Pearl.

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John Pytlak
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Christopher said: "...I am told the analog tracks on those (dye transfer prints) will be silverless and therefore incompatible with tungsten readers."

That would be news! Normally, the soundtracks are printed on the B&W emulsion of the "receiver" and processed to yield silver tracks for all four sound formats. To have a dye track, the dye would have to be transferred from a matrice, much like the pictures. If anyone gets an IB print, verify whether the tracks are silver or dye.

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Scott Norwood
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As for recent films with intermissions, let's not forget "Hamlet," which had intermissions in both the 35mm and 70mm prints. Unfortunately, the intermission was about 2:40 into the film...

Gotta love the 5-minute reels in there, too. I never ran Hamlet and am quite glad that I didn't have to deal with it on a changeover setup. I did enjoy the film, though.

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Bill Enos
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If this thing turns out to be another sorry assed love story with Pearl Harbor as an incidental it will deserve to fail, more than a few bitched about it in Titanic. I'm waiting to see and hoping for the best. With a single screen and the length of this film we'll need an intermission since it won't be practical to do more than one showing per evening, this only looks like the movie business, it's really about junk food.


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William Hooper
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quote:
If this thing turns out to be another sorry assed love story with Pear Harbor as an incidental

Like "From Here To Eternity"? They bombed Pearl Harbor in the last reel. That was a nightmare show when I ran it a few years ago. A very nice new print, but the shipping case had apparently popped open en route, the reels fell out, the evil black plastic shipping reel shattered, & whoever dropped it just jammed it - broken plastic reel pieces, film, & all - back into the case.

The sharp broken reel fragments & jamming did a number on the spooled print. The last reel had at least TWO breaks in the edge per layer around the reel for about 90% of its length. No perforation/edge-fixing tape, & 18 hours until the show, one show only, & it had to run on a platter. I spent forever sticking a little piece of splicing tape over the edge at each crack, & perforating it in the splicer.

When the last reel all ran through the projector without breaking going around a corner, I felt like I was ready for a drink & tranquilizer dart.

There is a real nice print of "From Here To Eternity" out there somewhere, with a bazillion little bits of splicing tape along its edges. I guess if I'd used a CineBug, I would have needed 2,000 ft. of tape.


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Mike Spaeth
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Someone made a comment about multiples being released after 2 weeks. According to my booker, the reason for this is that Disney wants full auditoriums. They would rather have you selling out a 300-seater than just putting 100 bodies each in 3 different auditoriums.

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Adam Martin
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quote:
They would rather have you selling out a 300-seater than just putting 100 bodies each in 3 different auditoriums.

What?! Can't be possible. That would involve Disney doing something that makes sense and that benefits both the theater and themselves.

The end of the world is at hand!

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Bernard Tonks
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I remember showing in the days when carbon arcs and changeovers were still around, the Russian version of "War And Peace" which had a running time of over 8 hours. There were three Intermissions, of which the manager allowed 30 minutes for on the second break. A Russian print in Sovcolour! There was also a 70mm print which had a West End run at the Curzon Mayfair.

William's mention of "From Here To Eternity" reminds me of Columbia's re-release in 1955 of a vertical scan to Anamorphic 2.35:1 - they called it MegaScope. I did see this on a 40 foot screen, a widescreen novelty at that time best forgotten especially in B+W. Also best
forgotten is a budget video I have of the same film which must have been taken from the most clapped out copy found, last shown down a coal mine by the look of it.


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Scott Madsen
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This picture will sure be on lots of screens. I hope "film done right" happens
so great presentations are given and customers leave happy. (plus a great movie would not hurt)


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Will Morrow
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DON'T INTERMISSION THIS MOVIE!

It runs smooth and fast, even at three hours.
I did, however, find that there is definately a strong love story theme. I guess character development depended on it. The only "TRUE" soldier character, from what I have heard, is Cuba Gooding Jr.'s. He is based on a real person, that was the first black man to recieve a silver star, I believe.
Unfortunately on Jay Leno about two weeks ago, they showed the whole boxing scene that he is in, get this, INCLUDING THE ENDING. Pissed me off. Anyway, the movie is good, not great. "If you promote it, they will come." Should be able to fill the seats, for a couple weeks, hopefully. Thats my guess, I hope our patrons prove me wrong.

-Will


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Joe Smith
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In my small corner of the world (at National Amusements in Centerville, Va.) Pearl opened on 4 screens starting at about 1115 with advance advertising of extra showtimes. The first 4 shows may have only 75 cars for all 4 shows total. The second set of 4 shows starting at 2:45 had about the same. I don't think there was more than 50 people in any show. The set of shows starting at 6:00 had more but they couldn't have been more than 30% full in any theatre. It ran just short of 3 hours, at 170 minutes with no intermission. There were no lines at the two open ticket booths at 2:45 and only 2 or 3 people at the snack bar at any time. There were 6 open ticket booths at 6:00pm but no lines, nobody at the snack bar and the cashiers looked very bored (and this is a 12-plex). If it doesn't do better tonight and tomorrow it'll propably be in 2nd run houses within 2 weeks....


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