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James R. Hammonds, Jr
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 - posted 05-26-2001 05:02 AM      Profile for James R. Hammonds, Jr   Email James R. Hammonds, Jr   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Now, Im not trying to advocate letting the leader hit the floor or say that its not important here, but Ive always wondered...if you use filmguard would it matter since the film is constantly being cleaned?

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Brad Miller
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 - posted 05-26-2001 06:58 AM      Profile for Brad Miller   Author's Homepage   Email Brad Miller       Edit/Delete Post 
To answer your question briefly, yes. If the leader is coming into contact with the floor on every threadup there will be dirt accumulation no matter what form of cleaner is being used and it will wear out for practical use as leader prematurely.

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Kyle Connolly
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From: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
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 - posted 05-28-2001 12:09 PM      Profile for Kyle Connolly   Email Kyle Connolly   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I have a problem. I worked over the weekend, and I tried threading bottom - top. It went well, and it doesn't take as long as i thought. The only problem is, i've talked to 2 of the 3 guys I work with, and they don't want to thread it that way. So, even if I were to continue to thread it up, it wouldn't matter. I tried to convince them, but they just won't (one of them has been a projectionist for 35 years). Does anybody have any suggestions?

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John Pytlak
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 - posted 05-28-2001 12:20 PM      Profile for John Pytlak   Author's Homepage   Email John Pytlak   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
As long as the threading leader doesn't come in contact with a dirty floor, it doesn't matter whether you thread bottom-to-top or top-to-bottom. But if their method puts film on the floor, challenge them to do it a better way! Or insist that the floor be damp mopped to pick up all dirt before they thread each show.

If you work in a theatre having enough screens to have multiple projectionists on duty at one time, organize two "teams", each with half the screens, and see which team can maintain the best presentation, including the cleanest pictures and best sound.

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Brad Miller
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 - posted 05-28-2001 12:23 PM      Profile for Brad Miller   Author's Homepage   Email Brad Miller       Edit/Delete Post 
Let's see what the options are...

#1 Just terminate them. (The preferred solution if you have the power, for you do not need people hard set in their ways like this in your booth.)

#2 See if they will thread following one of the acceptable alternatives. (IE: clamp the film with a clothespin before threading to keep the leader off of the floor, or place the film into the holdback sprocket before threading.)

#3 Give up and live with having a poor trailer presentation. Dirt WILL happen with this sort of threading.

This is precisely why I prefer to get some 16 year old kid who has never had a job a day in his life to replace projectionists. They don't have any bad habits to break, you don't have to listen to the "but I've done it this way for over two centuries and my presentation is wonderful" crap and not ever having a job before, they will do the job exactly as you tell them without thinking that they are having to do "too much work". Just as your projectionist was trained to dump the leader onto the floor with the mentality that it does not matter, these kids will leave the job one day with the mentality that film was not meant to be ran on the floor and will always be better projectionists for it.


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