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Our average age is 24. We all check the start-up of each film, and the start of every feature including focus, framing, fuzzy edges, misframes etc, etc.

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The trailer Planet Of The Apes, should
not be removed.
It was printed in there for a reason.
(This is called hardlocked - for A REASON)
Your 'policy' tag should be inserted 3 feet
or less after you see the number 3 on the leader of reel 1.

How some people are mentioning the first few BUMP-BUMP of the Fox fanfare are being cut off, due to no frame lines is beyond belief to me. Ever heard of a frame counter?

However, I know FOX cut short the fanfare
when it is clearly a crap movie.
(The Abyss and Aliens get excused)

At least look at the analouge sound track, the cut foot back towards the leader, taking into account that you dont include the Number 3 'beep'

Bill.

Geez, give people a little bit of credit, will ya? I know what I am doing and there are plenty more people here that do as well. Every single possible frame of black was saved. The cut was done on the last frame of the attached trailer. The problem here is that Fox is OVERLAPPING the audio into the end of the trailer. This is NOT a projectionist fault.

Also, apparently you did not read my post above thouroughly. Do you remember this line?

"most theaters REQUIRE the cutting of the attached logo so their policy trailer can be inserted."

Yes, theaters REQUIRE the placement of the policy immediately before the feature starts. I am not going to break a theater's policy simply because someone seems to think that overlapping the audio will force everyone to not cut it. The trailer still plays before the feature. Fox should not have a problem with it provided the trailer DOES play.

However it becomes a difficult for us as our new tag only comes in Widescreen. No matter what we say they won't make a c/s version.
(And I'll bet it's because of the cost)

So we have to put it after the last w/s trailer and before the hardlocked c/s trl.

With the over lapping sound track, I'll have
check that out. If its true, you've got to wonder why they have done that. I don't know.

Are your flat-only policies animated, graphics or live action? How do they look when ran through an anamorphic?

It wouldn't be surprising, as the comments include prints outside the USA. Perhaps the limited pre-release in selected cities was slightly different too.

I thought they were all scope tags.

Thems peeples is crazy.

If they only come in w/s and they insist you run it, then I wouldn't be running the scope trailer. There is nothing in the film's rental contract that says you MUST run the attached trailer. Besides, Apes isn't until August and there's plenty of titles coming out before that one.

John.

What did you mean when you stated that Fox cut off the fanfare for _Aliens_ and _The Abyss_? What was missing -- part of the opening drums or the Cinemascope Extension?

Until recently, flat films never had the extended Fox fanfare. The Cinemascope Extension was composed by Alfred Newman specifically to promote Cinemascope films. _Aliens_ is flat and so the shorter original fanfare is expected. In fact, in the seventies and eighties, even anamorphic Fox films, like _Alien_, sometimes used the shorter fanfare.

I suppose it's due to the influence of _Star Wars_, which made the extended fanfare so well-known, that Fox began putting it in all its movies. An example is _Quills_ from Fox Searchlight, which was shot flat, but opened with the Cinemascope Extension to the fanfare.

On a related note, isn't the 50th anniversary of Cinemascope coming up soon? Considering how much of a milestone it was, Fox should do something, perhaps revive the "A Cinemascope Production" tag which goes after the searchlight logo. Go to Martin Hart's http://www.widescreenmuseum.com/ if you've never seen the tag.