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Topic: The Language of Film
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Manny Knowles
"What are these things and WHY are they BLUE???"

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From: Bloomington, IN, USA
Registered: Feb 2002
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posted 04-09-2002 10:41 AM
Any truth to an old story that Edison said it ought to be "that big" (gesturing the width with thumb and index finger)? Supposedly, Dickson took a measurement and that's where the gauge came from.I had always assumed that it was easier for Dickson and Edison to express the gauge in millimetres because with inches, they would be hassled by fractions. ------------------ And, hey! Let's be careful out there. ~Manny.
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Manny Knowles
"What are these things and WHY are they BLUE???"

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posted 04-09-2002 10:53 AM
Steve:Interesting question. Maybe if I got more exposure to Canadian product, I'd have a stronger idea of how to categorize it. IMAX often counts as cinema...I'm bad about verifying what country produced a given title...I've always assumed they were all Canadian. For clarification: I am not referring to American movies that hopped over to Canada to take advantage of cheaper production. I assumed you were asking about bona fide Canadian movies. ------------------ And, hey! Let's be careful out there. ~Manny.
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John Pytlak
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posted 04-09-2002 11:02 AM
Manny asked: "Any truth to an old story that Edison said it ought to be "that big" (gesturing the width with thumb and index finger)? Supposedly, Dickson took a measurement and that's where the gauge came from."A nice anecdote, but an unlikely scenario. As I mentioned, Kodak made a 2-3/4 inch wide roll film, and Edison/Dickson slit it in half to 1-3/8 inch width. Check out "The Story of Kodak" by Douglas Collins: The Story of Kodak ------------------ John P. Pytlak, Senior Technical Specialist Worldwide Technical Services, Entertainment Imaging Research Labs, Building 69, Room 7525A Rochester, New York, 14650-1922 USA Tel: +1 585 477 5325 Cell: +1 585 781 4036 Fax: +1 585 722 7243 E-Mail: john.pytlak@kodak.com Web site: http://www.kodak.com/go/motion
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Frank Angel
Film God

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From: Brooklyn NY USA
Registered: Dec 1999
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posted 04-11-2002 02:45 AM
Carl, I've heard a variation on that also....I was told that to distinguish themselves from "legitimate" Broadway houses, all the vaudville/cinemas on 42nd Street (the day-and-date houses when they added film) used the "re." However, if you open any newspaper here in New York, you find plenty of Broadway theatres using re (the majority I would say) and less using er -- seems pretty random and not following any pattern. Even though the NYTimes for example, uses "er" in their timetable section, then below it, there is a multitude of listings for "Theatre."Even more ironic is that our Gershwin Theatre has a bronze plaque that says it's the Gershwin Theatre, but up over the canopy entrance to the same theatre, large two foot letters proclaim it is the Gershwin Theater. And in one of the playbills for a college Mainstage Production, the location is given as the Gershwin Theatre but on the same page, it says the play is being produced by the college Theater Department! No rhyme or reason. I was working with Anthony Daniels (C3P0) this week in a show Lucas put together with the museum: Star Wars-Magic of the Myth exhibit that runs thru May at the Brooklyn Museum. Storm Troupers on stage, and lots of slides and video material from all the films showing lots of visual tricks, augmented with talks by the heads of ILM miniatures and the CG depts -- great fun. Anyway, I heard two things from Daniels that struck me -- he refered to the projection booth as the projection "box" (as he gratiously thanked the projectionists at the end of the show - very classy). And he also pronounced aluminum as "al-you-mini-um," which to me sounded like some weird element we never discovered over here in the US. We will be running all four SW titles starting next week, and they want us to run their Ep 2 trailer ever time anyone walks in or out of the theatre (just exagerating, but we are running it ALOT). I have no idea if these prints are coming directly from LucasFilm, or from Fox -- no idea what condition they will be in. I suspect they may be coming from Lucas since they seem to have a very hands-on control of this exhibit -- I can't imagine they would rely on Fox to send whatever prints they have lying around from the trilogy re-release for such a big exhibit. Will report back.
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Ken Lackner
Phenomenal Film Handler

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From: Atlanta, GA, USA
Registered: Sep 2001
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posted 04-15-2002 12:16 PM
In electronics, there are two theories: conventional flow, and electron flow. In my classes, we are studying conventional flow, where current flows from positive to negative. I know that in reality, the actual electrons flow from negative to positive, which is the way it's taught in electron flow theory. I don't know where conventional flow theory came from, but that's probablly what that diagram was using.Paul, I've heard the term "discharge vessel" also, but I thought it was referring to the quartz envelope. I can't remember where I saw it. ------------------ This one time, at Projection Camp, I stuck a xenon bulb....
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Carl King
Expert Film Handler

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From: Saint John, New Brunswick, Canada
Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 04-15-2002 12:22 PM
Hi John Walsh:I also use Cinnemeccanica projectors. In my booth I have 4 Victoria IVs and 3 Victoira 8s. I think the Mascarini swithc is used to shut off the projector in case of a break. Sometmes when film breaks and the projector keeps running the film will continue to wrap around the feed sprocket. Once it builds up enough it will be high enough to raise the small rounded lever above the feed sprocket. Once this lever raises high enough it will trigger a microswitch( I think) that will shut off the projector. They were, as far as I know, an early version of a fail-safe. Maybe there is someone out there who can verify this but I think I real close to being right on this one. Carl
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