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Joe Redifer
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 - posted 06-22-2001 06:19 PM      Profile for Joe Redifer   Author's Homepage   Email Joe Redifer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I agree with Scott. I have seen files get bigger as I tried to compress them. If you must use compression, split it up with the RAR format. It is one of the most efficient schemes out there, far better than Zip, Stuffit or BinHex. With RAR the file can be broken up into many separate files, so that if there was a problem downloading, you would only have to redownload the problem file again. Much easier. Unfortunately, the RAR program on the Mac sucks, unless they have updated it and didn't tell me about it.

I think Brad has a great idea. There would have to be an instructions page for burning the disc, and also a disclaimer that says that if the resulting burned CD does not work, neither Film-Tech nor DTS can be held responsible. The only thing that would suck is if someone had a pissy slow burner and a 16 screen with DTS in every house!


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Randy Stankey
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Joe, you probably know this already but BinHex isn't compression. It takes the binary data and makes it into hexadecimal digita then writes them as text. It's used because some servers (UN*X) like to crunch the data. It often makes the file bigger but because text sometimes transfers faster its the better way to go.

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Scott Norwood
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So...umm...how does BinHex differ from good old "uuencode"? From Randy's description, it sounds like it does the same thing, but in a non-standard manner. Am I missing something? (I gather that BinHex is a Mac thing. Having not used a Mac at all in the last 10 years or so, I'm not up on what's current.)

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Randy Stankey
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BinHex is a Mac thing. It's been around for as long as I can remember. I have used uuencode on occasion, though.
I don't know all the reasons but I understand it has something to do with the way one of the two systems treat the high order bits. If I remember right, Un*x systems ignore it, thus munching the data.

I just thought BinHex was a pretty natural way to do things: If you have a series of bits like 1101 0110 that would come out to D6 in hexidecimal. If you just wrote that as text there'd be no worry about who does what with which bits.


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John Walsh
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Well, it would have to be simple, probably tailored to work with Windows. Remember, some of the same popcorn-projectionists will be the ones who will want to download DTS discs. They most likely never heard of UNIX or Linux, let alone any commands.

That's why I was thinking of an image file: everything in there and already compressed.


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Joe Redifer
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 - posted 06-23-2001 01:41 AM      Profile for Joe Redifer   Author's Homepage   Email Joe Redifer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
But with an image file, while definitely easier, you wouldn't be able to pick and choose the trailers to burn onto the CD. Say you want these four trailers, and those other eight trailers, plus this company policy, and that Will Rogers ad, etc. The idea is to download the individual trailer files (or filez, depending on your age) and burn them all onto a single DTS CD that would play in in your very own movie theater, provided it was equipped with a DTS player. Image files would have to be premade. If ya want it that way, it would just be easier to use the trailer discs DTS sends out every day.

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Randy Stankey
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Wouldn't it be cool if all the trailer files were on a server and you could pick and choose which trailers you wanted on your disk? Then the server would "stitch" all the files into an image and download it to you. All you would have to do is blast it onto a CD.

I think it's about time somebody did a little research on just what it takes to make a trailer disk. Next time I'm in a theatre and they are tossing out their old trailer disks I think I might pick up a little research material.

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