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Bill Purdy
Expert Film Handler

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From: Seattle, WA
Registered: Oct 1999


 - posted 07-06-2001 11:17 AM      Profile for Bill Purdy   Author's Homepage   Email Bill Purdy   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Wow! Did you give me the perfect opportunity! We manufacture a conversion for the Kalee sound head models 378,543, or 876. This unit allows for not only today's wonderful reverse scan with 660 nm red LED light source, but you can add Dolby Digital as well. Because the Kalees were so well made they pull film with the accuracy needed for both very low wow and flutter in analog, and stable film positioning for solid digital.

We have one here in our shop (complete with nice new belts) which was loaned to us by Dick Prather of Portland. I don't think that he wants it back, so, if anyone wants to come to Seattle to fetch it....................

For a picture and blurb please go to:
http://www.componentengineering.com/readers.html

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Bill Purdy
Component Engineering


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Bernard Tonks
Jedi Master Film Handler

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From: Cranleigh, Surrey, England
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 - posted 07-06-2001 03:35 PM      Profile for Bernard Tonks   Email Bernard Tonks   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Fine projectors for their day (1947) built like tanks. During my freelance days I worked GK21 projectors also a complete GK20 outfit with the normal rounded spool boxes. I never liked the brown colour or the aperture plates which inserted at the top of the gate between the gate runners. I was told that there was a gate modification that allowed aperture plates to be inserted side on. A friend of mine was equipped with the complete GK21s and was very happy with them, his only criticism being the long gates that could not always maintain even focus on buckled prints. The huge base of the 21 was also known as the Elephants Foot. The GK21 was also the only projector to show 34mm film, Mike Todd, (of Todd AO fame) “Around The World In 80 Days” at the Astoria Theatre Charing Cross Road, London in the late 1950s. Why 34mm film ? this was to overcome 35mm cinemas having to show a percentage of British made films every year (British quota laws).
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Jim Schultz did an interesting article on The Gaumont Kalee 21 in the October 1989 issue of Cinema Technology. Here are some interesting short extracts allowed by the BKSTS.

Gaumont Kalee 21, GK21, and the initial equipment was basically for theatres over 2000 seats. The massive pedestal assembly incorporated the bottom spool box, mains input terminations, arcbeam and soundhead platform, and would require the efforts of five or six men to lift or move it. To distinguish it from later pedestal systems, it earned the unofficial name of Queen Mary assembly and became disliked for both it’s weight and size.

To further the success of the GK21, the Rank organisation (who had acquired the well known Kershaw Kalee company) had engaged the services of various advisers including stylists and psychologists one of whom had previously worked on the design of the popular Triumph Mayflower car. Known as the ‘Razor Edge’ style, the resemblance could easily be seen in the full GK21 assembly.

Although even heavier in build than the previous Kalee 12, the machine was reasonably conventional except for the double speeded, single blade flicker shutter which claimed to pass about 4-1/2 % extra light. The shutter shaft ran at 2880 rpm.

Two other versions of the GK21 are worth a mention, one the 70mm prototype, which was never demonstrated, and the VistaVision models that were. The Rank Organisation had accepted Paramount Pictures wide screen system with some enthusiasm and had produced a number of films in the process. Four GK21 projectors were modified for horizontal film traction and eight perforation shift, and two London West End theatres equipped with a pair each (Odeon Leicester Square and Plaza Piccadilly Circus). VistaVision, in it’s showcase exhibition required this horizontal film transport to the total exclusion of conventional projection and a cinema therefore required two sets of projectors. It is argued that if VistaVision machines had featured a compatibility feature with standard film the process would have stood more chance of success. Some engineers claimed the projectors could have been designed to accept the film in the normal top spool to bottom spool configuration and the image turned to horizontal by optical means and in doing so would have left the machines available for conversion kits to project standard four perforation films.
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Two years ago a new company was formed trading as Gaumont Kalee, for rebuilding projectors, spares and servicing. The company details were published by the BKSTS.

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Alan Plester
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From: great yarmouth england
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B T H. absolute monster of a machine but so quiet.

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Stefan Scholz
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From: Schoenberg, Germany
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To James Robertson, yes, the Kallee is not among my favorable projectors.
A little bit of background. During High school I got a deluxe color brochure from about 1952, showing the Gaumont Kalee "21" projection setup. Wow, what a gorgeous machine! I needed to own THAT!
Some years later, at the age of 18, I was able to get hold of the featured product, from a basement in my hometown Hamburg. It was originally installed in the prestigeous Streit's theatre in Hamburg in 1953, at that time owned by thew J. Arthur Rank organization. It was put in storage in the basement about 1968, after a dsesastrous premiere with Barbara Streisand's "Funny Girl". The projectors were equipped with synchronus motors, running 25 fps at the power frequency of 50 Hz. The sound pitch was higher, and too high for a professional singer. What a desaster with the artist in the show. So the beasts were pulled out of operation, and replaced with Kallee 60's, which is basicly Victoria 8.
There they were, and I curious to get them running, with president arc lamps etc. A friend was nearly killed, when we wanted to move the rectifier box to a his basement, as the rope tore, the box rushing down the staircase. Luckily he jumped away soon enough, and wasn' caught in the corner.
Finally we were able to get one running, the design was really outstanding, and the fantastic Pyrene fire extinguisher on the top spool box was something special. Single bladed high speed shutter and nicely crafted outer shell...
But technically, I had to find out, beeing silent as a machine gun, and picture steadiness far below my set of Bauer's or my Norelco AA.
So my brother and I decided to give it some real usage, building a 9000 ft pedestal on wheels, just using the #1 picturehead and BAF 83 soundhead, handing the complete thing to a collector friend for appartment use. It was equipped with our own horizontal 500 W Xenon lamphouse (quite good for that age..., the housing mechanically made by a friend's father)... but our friend tended to use 400 W halogen within.
This did some reliable service for a couple of years, until it was destroyed in a fire in that appartment, which broke out while we were in the Streit's theatre together watching a Stallone premiere with lots of fire.
There still is the second projector sitting in my barn, and I never found a space or time to put it on display, you're right it's a masterpiece of design and should be displayed...
... but I prefer any Simplex XL, Bauer or AGA Baltic to work with.
And my favourite remains Bauer U2.
I have tried to scan the pictures from the 1952 brochure, computer genious, It did not work. So I hope my webcam shot, mailed to Brad could workout.


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Mark Gulbrandsen
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From: Music City
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I have heard several hillarious stories of GK 21's with the "Queen "Mary Bases" comming right through the booth floor and landing in the lobby. Have any of you heard other stories of this nature? With the "Queen mary" base each machine was supposed to weigh in at about 1 ton. One story I was told was due to a gas explosion in the basement of the theatre. It was powerful enough to lift the machines off the floor and when they came down they just kept going down on through to the lobby where the manager found them the next morning. If you know of a story like this please post it.

Bill P. A number of years ago I measured almost every projector/soundhead combo out there for wow&flutter and the Kalee was the lowest of all of them. It had to be at the residual of the film itself. No american machine even came close.
Mark @ GTS


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Ben Wales
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 - posted 07-09-2001 05:30 PM      Profile for Ben Wales   Email Ben Wales   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Just returned from a weekend in Wales and found several cinemas still operating Kalee 21's, one cinema had about 5 spare mechs for spares, they also had the Kalee's running off the Potts 35mm Platter.

Interesting that one GK21 had a Peerless Carbon Arc Lamphouse in Kalee colours, which I belive was first installed on a ship.

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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I wonder if the Queen Mary had Kalees installed on it originally?? I know that a couple of ships including the SS United States had DP-70's in their theatres.
Mark @ GTS

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Dick Vaughan
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In the Museum's collection we have a pair of Kalee GK19's that were originally installed on the Royal Yacht Brittania and later ended up in Buckingham Palace.

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Gordon McLeod
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Hopefully I will get the Kalee 19-21 manuauls scanned today and sent off to Brad

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Bernard Tonks
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From: Cranleigh, Surrey, England
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 - posted 07-10-2001 10:21 AM      Profile for Bernard Tonks   Email Bernard Tonks   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Mark:

According to the opening souvenir programme of my cinema (October 1936) the equipment installed was also selected for the four theatres aboard the S.S “Queen Mary”. Supplied by G.B. Equipments Ltd.

Projectors: Gaumont Eclipse.
Sound: G.B.E. “Q” type. Soundheads of the latest P.U3 pattern 50 to 12,000 cycles.
Arclamps: Gaumont Kalee Vulcan.

Four theatres in the 1930s, must have been the first multi-screens in the world.
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Friends of mine recently returned from a cruise on the “Q.E.2" and visited the projection box which was equipped with Philips DP 75 projectors.


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John Pytlak
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There is a Kalee 20 at the Odeon Cinema, Aberdeen, Scotland which is being demolished.
The Screens, many projection lenses,and most of the working parts of a GB
Kalee "20" Projector have been left for re-sale, we therefore wondered if
you (or anyone you know), would be interested in the purchase of any of these?

See the Equipment Wanted or For Sale Forum.


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John P. Pytlak, Senior Technical Specialist
Worldwide Technical Services, Entertainment Imaging
Eastman Kodak Company
Research Labs, Building 69, Room 7419
Rochester, New York, 14650-1922 USA
Tel: 716-477-5325 Cell: 716-781-4036 Fax: 716-722-7243
E-Mail: john.pytlak@kodak.com
Web site: http://www.kodak.com/go/motion


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Bernard Tonks
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At last the pictures I promised James Robertson, kindly supplied by
Mike Taylor, The Projected Picture Trust, Northern Branch. Preserving
The Magic Of Cinema. www.ppttrust.org
The Empire Cinema, Widnes, Lancashire, England 1947 (now demolished).
Gaumont Kalee 21s with 'Lightmaster' carbon arc lamps an intregal part
of this equipment.


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James Robertson
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Thanks Bernard and Mike for your splendid pictures. Reinforces my view that a more elegant looking projector has yet to be built

Jim

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