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Greg Mueller
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1687
From: Port Gamble, WA
Registered: Jun 99

posted 07-28-2001 05:13 PM

Hey Randy
Does that trick only work with 3 drawer dts units? I just tried it with a 2 drawer unit and it didn't work.
Darn!

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Greg Mueller
Amateur Astronomer, Machinist, Filmnut
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Randy Stankey
Film God

Posts: 6539
From: Erie, Pennsylvania
Registered: Jun 99

posted 07-28-2001 07:43 PM

I think it's has to do with the ROM version rather than the model (number of drives) of the unit. I have some DTS-6's that will do it and some that won't. To my recollection, the ones that don't do it are the ones that haven't had their drives replaced yet and consequently, still have the old firmware installed.

If you take a look at the rear of the unit, there's a sticker that should show what the version number is. That'll tell you whether you have older firmware. I don't quite remember what the newest update is. Is it v1.62 ?

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Greg Mueller
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1687
From: Port Gamble, WA
Registered: Jun 99

posted 07-28-2001 08:40 PM

This one is a stock old original one with the old original drives. It isn't the very first Jurrasic Park unit, it's the next one they made. But it still has the Toshiba XM3401B caddy drives in it

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Greg Mueller
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Randy Stankey
Film God

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From: Erie, Pennsylvania
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posted 07-29-2001 01:40 AM

That's one of the ones that I have that I can't get to play the movie disk, but the rest of the empirical disk works OK.

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Matthew Bailey
Master Film Handler

Posts: 461
From: Port Arthur,TX
Registered: Sep 2000

posted 07-29-2001 11:11 PM

I probably coudn't play a DTS theatre disk on a DVD player
that is DTS equipped unless you have a music or or movie title that is
DTS encoded. There have been magazine ads of CD music albums that
are DTS encoded,However to pay a DTS theatre disk on a DVD player
of the mentioned type,you would probably need to make a copy of
it & encode it with the proper timecode &/or software.

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Randy Stankey
Film God

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From: Erie, Pennsylvania
Registered: Jun 99

posted 07-30-2001 04:14 AM

The DTS that is played in the theatre and the DTS you get for your home systems are two completely different animals all together. In fact, once you account for the media that they are both written on (some sort of CD) there is just about nothing that is alike about the two. Unless you are willing to put a whole lot of time and money into buying some very specialized equipment a movie theatre DTS disk is virtually useless without the DTS player.

In short... No you can't play a DTS theatre disk in your DVD player even if it's got DTS built in.

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Karen Hultgren
Master Film Handler

Posts: 492
From: Agoura Hills, CA, USA
Registered: Mar 2000

posted 08-09-2001 05:10 PM

So what exactly are you guys trying to do here? Seems like you are doing a lot of work/research for nothing.

I don't get it... Karen at DTS

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Greg Mueller
Phenomenal Film Handler

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From: Port Gamble, WA
Registered: Jun 99

posted 08-09-2001 05:38 PM

Karen
Just monkeyin around. It's kind of fun to hear the system work without having to thread up and run the film

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Greg Mueller
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Randy Stankey
Film God

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From: Erie, Pennsylvania
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posted 08-09-2001 09:03 PM

I am the kind of person who, if you put some device on the table in front of me, will have to investigate how it works.

If you put a shoebox in front of me with something inside it and I had to figure out what was inside it without opening it, I will NOT rest until I have satisfied myself that I know what it is.

It's hard to explain why. I was just born with it. (Like a birth defect? )

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John Wilson
Film God

Posts: 5438
From: Sydney, Australia.
Registered: Dec 1999

posted 08-10-2001 08:48 AM

It's a shoe, Randy.

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Evans A Criswell
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1579
From: Huntsville, AL, USA
Registered: Mar 2000

posted 08-10-2001 09:19 AM

quote:
I am the kind of person who, if you put some device on the table in front of me, will have to investigate how it works.
If you put a shoebox in front of me with something inside it and I had to figure out what was inside it without opening it, I will NOT rest until I have satisfied myself that I know what it is.
It's hard to explain why. I was just born with it. (Like a birth defect? )

Don't worry, Randy, it's not a birth defect. I'm the same way. Even if the knowledge about how something works (theoretical) does not benefit me a bit when it comes to using the device or attempting to physically repair it, I still like to know the theoretical aspects of what's going on inside the box. That's the main reason I registered here at film-tech -- to learn more about how film and projectors work.

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Huntsville-Decatur Movie Theatre Information Site

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Randy Stankey
Film God

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From: Erie, Pennsylvania
Registered: Jun 99

posted 08-10-2001 03:57 PM

Cute, John!

Is it a left shoe or a right shoe?
Is it a sneaker, a dress shoe, a high heel, a work boot or something else?

You can't open the box. The label may or may not be correct. When you have made your best guess, you have to tell us what led you to believe that. NO FAIR GETTING THE BOX X-RAYED!!

Oh! And you get bonus points if you can tell us what color it is!

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Bobby Henderson
"Ask me about Trajan."

Posts: 10973
From: Lawton, OK, USA
Registered: Apr 2001

posted 08-11-2001 12:05 AM

To further clarify the differences between "Home DTS" and the Theatrical DTS format --the differences between these two sound compression formats is just as wide as the differences between DTS to Dolby Digital or SDDS. The theatrical version uses a simple waveform codec called APT-X100. The home theater version of DTS uses a different adaptive transform compression system called DTS-CAC. Even if you could feed the bitstream of a DTS theatrical CD-ROM into a home theater receiver, that receiver's DTS decoder would not understand a single bit of the code. You might as well be trying to play the DTS CD-ROMs through a Dolby Digital decoder.

Speaking of Dolby Digital, the AC-3 code between theatrical prints and what you find on DVD and LD is from the same compression format. However, Dolby Digital theatrical prints have copy protection measures put into place to prevent the playing of a theatrical AC-3 bitstream on any consumer Dolby Digital gear.

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