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Randy Stankey
Film God

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From: Erie, Pennsylvania
Registered: Jun 99


 - posted 09-03-2001 05:54 PM      Profile for Randy Stankey   Email Randy Stankey   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Here is a pic of the film cleaner in action on top of a Simplex XL. The platter (Potts) is behind the camera, much like you have said yours is set up.

The rest of the pics are in the warehouse, under Mercyhurst College.


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Brad Miller
Administrator

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From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall)
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 - posted 09-03-2001 06:20 PM      Profile for Brad Miller   Author's Homepage   Email Brad Miller       Edit/Delete Post 
And here's an ideal place to store your rewinder core when you have the cleaner mounted on the platter.

Unfortunately, just standing the core there makes it very easily tipped over if you aren't careful. However, using a spare "shoulder, media takeup shaft PN#7508260" and a 1 1/4 inch bolt with "fine threads" will get you this handy dandy solution. (Core moved to the left for a visual comparison in this picture.)

Partial due credit goes to Joe Redifer on this.


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John Schulien
Expert Film Handler

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From: Chicago, IL, USA
Registered: Nov 1999


 - posted 09-04-2001 12:19 PM      Profile for John Schulien   Email John Schulien   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
About two months ago, I brought out some films from my 16mm collection for a backyard screening. Two films -- a lab mint mylar cartoon, and a treasured 1966 IBTech original. Both had been previously treated with Filmguard.

So as I was setting up the projector, I had everything sitting out on a table. I wanted to clear some room, so I picked up a sled that was sitting on a shelf overhead ...

... which turned out to be filled with rainwater, which went cascading down onto the film. Talk about a sinking feeling! Disaster!

I grabbed the film and shook the loose water off. I did notice that it was beaded up on the film, not soaking in. -- it wasn't penetrating. Ok ... time to act fast ... I ran inside with the films and mounted the first wet reel on the rewinds. I sprayed about three shots of filmguard on each side of the reel, then ran the slippery, over-lubricated film back and forth through the rewinds, passing the film through a folded cotton t-shirt as I went to take off both water droplets and excess filmguard. I did this for all four reels.

When I was done, I screened the films, and there was no, repeat NO water damage evident. Without the filmguard, both films would have certainly been destroyed on the spot. I was just amazed. Not only does the filmguard coating protect against dirt and scratches, but it appears to be an extremely effective waterproofing agent.

The bottle paid for itself right then and there!


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Bob Peticolas
Film Handler

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From: Mesilla, New Mexico
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 - posted 09-08-2001 12:42 PM      Profile for Bob Peticolas   Author's Homepage   Email Bob Peticolas   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Guys,

Thanks for the pictures (and the testimonials). As soon as I can, I'm going to get Filmguard.

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Keith Peticolas
Expert Film Handler

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From: Eagle River, Alaska, USA
Registered: Aug 2001


 - posted 09-16-2001 10:01 PM      Profile for Keith Peticolas   Email Keith Peticolas   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Dad, I told you, Film Guard rocks! Except for the smell.
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John Wilson
Film God

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From: Sydney, Australia.
Registered: Dec 1999


 - posted 09-16-2001 10:49 PM      Profile for John Wilson   Email John Wilson   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
The smell (more like a strong 'fragrance') is worth putting up with. Just don't enhale too long and if you are cleaning manually, try and do it in a ventilated area or keep a desk fan blowing nearby.


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Randy Stankey
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 - posted 09-16-2001 10:55 PM      Profile for Randy Stankey   Email Randy Stankey   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Oh, I don't know. I think FilmGuard smells rather good. Not in a "this smells nice" way but in a "functional" way. The smell kind of goes along with its function. It smells "clean", which is what it does... clean the film.

Another one of my favorite chemical smells is Hoppe's #9 gun cleaner. It's one of those smells I grew up with. Again, when I smell it I am reminded of what it does. It cleans and lubricates guns. There's also a kind of nostalgia that is recalled when I smell it because it reminds me of the times when I was sitting on the floor with my father after comming home from a hunting trip.

Finally, I actually prefer the smell to be somewhat strong or "repulsive". It helps people who may not have as much experience with these kinds of chemicals remember that they aren't trifling with some kind of "toy".

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Keith Peticolas
Expert Film Handler

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From: Eagle River, Alaska, USA
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 - posted 09-17-2001 12:02 AM      Profile for Keith Peticolas   Email Keith Peticolas   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Good points, Gents. But tell it to my wife who complains about having to smell it on my clothes and hands. Seriously, F.G. is great and worth the smell.
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Joe Redifer
You need a beating today

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 - posted 09-17-2001 02:24 AM      Profile for Joe Redifer   Author's Homepage   Email Joe Redifer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Don't get any on your clothes and wash what little amount you get on your hands after you are done messing with it. Either that or divorce your wife. Both solutions are simple.

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Paul G. Thompson
The Weenie Man

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From: Mount Vernon WA USA
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 - posted 09-17-2001 02:31 AM      Profile for Paul G. Thompson   Email Paul G. Thompson   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
yeah - I finally recognized the smell of Film-Guard. It smells like the sweeping compound the janitor used when I was in grade school back in the '40's.

Being an old die-hard, I am not totally sold on that stuff. I am using it on a trial basis. Time will tell, but the above testimonials seem to be very promising.

Paul


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Greg Mueller
Phenomenal Film Handler

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 - posted 09-17-2001 04:26 PM      Profile for Greg Mueller   Author's Homepage   Email Greg Mueller   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I don't mind the smell, I think it's fairly pleasant. When my wife complains about the lube oil smell I bring home from the machine shop, I tell her "It smells like...victory!"...I mean,..."money!" (My dad used to work at the pulp mill in north Everett and used to say the same thing) Paul I bet you like FG it's great stuff

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Greg Mueller
Amateur Astronomer, Machinist, Filmnut
http://www.muellersatomics.com/

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Keith Peticolas
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 - posted 09-17-2001 08:30 PM      Profile for Keith Peticolas   Email Keith Peticolas   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hmm, a divorce or a shower. Wonder if I get a free bottle if I leave my wife. Paul, you will learn the true power of FG and become a true believer!
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Paul G. Thompson
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 - posted 09-17-2001 08:57 PM      Profile for Paul G. Thompson   Email Paul G. Thompson   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
We'll see. So far the results are good. Nobody commented on the "long term effects" of that stuff. That seems to ba an issue with the users of that stuff.


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John Wilson
Film God

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 - posted 09-28-2001 06:47 AM      Profile for John Wilson   Email John Wilson   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
So Paul, how's the tests going?

BTW...the fragrance of FilmGuard sure beats the hell outa that toxic stench that comes from the folks at FilmTreat in L.A.

Peeeew!

I told the booker the other day I'd prefer crapped out 2nd hand prints so long as they were untreated by that smelly, stinky coating crap they put on it.

He thought I was kidding until I convinced him otherwise...

This week we opened with sneaks of America's Sweethearts and they are 2nd hand but he's sent me an untreated print.

Guess what? After one run...she's looking brand spankin' new.

As Mr. Tinkles says in Cats and Dogs...

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

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Dr. Hibbert: Homer, this is your physician, Dr. Julius Hibbert. Can you tell us what it's like in there?

Homer: Um...did anyone see the movie "Tron"?
Hibbert: No.
Lisa: No.
Marge: No.
Bart: No.
Patty: No.
Ned: No.
Selma: No.
Frink: No.
Lovejoy: No.
Chief Wiggum: Yes. Er...I mean no.

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Paul G. Thompson
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 - posted 09-28-2001 12:02 PM      Profile for Paul G. Thompson   Email Paul G. Thompson   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I ordered a bottle last week. It is back ordered. Seems the guys who make the bottles to put the stuff in can't get their act in one box. That's Tennessee for ya! A bunch of toothless "Hicks"

Gotta wait another week to a week and a half to get it now.

Paul


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