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Author Topic: Brenkert History Paul G. Thompson The Weenie Man Posts: 4718 From: Mount Vernon WA USA Registered: Nov 2000 posted 09-27-2001 01:27 PM                     Jeff, I have also used aircraft hydraulic fluid as oil in a Brenkert. Did that for two years. The machine still runs great! I don't have that machine anymore. I gave it away. Paul  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 09-27-2001 04:28 PM                     I'd never run automatic transmission fluid in any projector ever. I ahev a pair of X-L's in my shoop a few years back that someone had run Transmission fluis in and they were seized up big time. I ended up junking the machines when I moved out here as they were an absolute mess. The fluid was not kind on the paint either. I ahve run refrigeration oil in a Brenkert though and Melchers used to sell Refrigeration oil for use in them. The stuff looks like water but has just a slight odor to it. I ahve used light weight spindle oil for X-L's and brenkerts with great success. When you think about the extremely high grade bearings that get lubriated with spindle oil itmakes sense for projector use. Some of the large, precision ball bearings in machine tool spindles cost more to buy than en entire X-L does brand new! I still swear by synthetics though. Read the tech stuff on theMobil One site and its pretty clear why its so good. Mark @ GTS  |  IP: Logged Paul G. Thompson The Weenie Man Posts: 4718 From: Mount Vernon WA USA Registered: Nov 2000 posted 09-27-2001 07:28 PM                     Hi, Mark. Thanks for your input on the spindle oil. Best news I heard yet when it comes to Brenkerts. Josh, when you get that gallon I sent, run it in that machine that ran tight on us, and let us know how it does  |  IP: Logged Gordon McLeod Film God Posts: 9532 From: Toronto Ontario Canada Registered: Jun 99 posted 09-27-2001 08:49 PM                     The VIC 8 for years was transmission fluid  |  IP: Logged Don Sneed Master Film Handler Posts: 451 From: Texas City, TX, USA Registered: Aug 2001 posted 09-27-2001 09:29 PM                        I service (4) single screens theatres using Brenkert BX-60 & BX-80 for the last 21 years & three of them have been using transmission fluid & I have NEVER, EVER had to do anything to those machines except replace a sprocket or a gate in all those years....the only real problem I ever had is to tighten the framing assy. In my opinon for what it is worth is the Brenkert Projector was the best projector ever made...For carbon arc lamps the Enarc & Peerless was the best.  |  IP: Logged Paul G. Thompson The Weenie Man Posts: 4718 From: Mount Vernon WA USA Registered: Nov 2000 posted 09-28-2001 05:06 PM                     HURRAY!!!!!!! Hey, guys, I found out what kind of oil Brenkert projectors DO or DID use! According to the oil Gurus, the ISO 10 Spindle Oil I was goofing with is the stuff. Paul  |  IP: Logged Joe Ritter Film Handler Posts: 27 From: Cape May Court House, NJ, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 09-28-2001 08:38 PM                     It has bee argued about the use of transmission fluid in projectors. I have used it in precision machines for years. I use the type A fluid. I don`t know anything about the newer ATF but the old type A is good stuff.--------Thanks ------Joe Ritter--------  |  IP: Logged Paul G. Thompson The Weenie Man Posts: 4718 From: Mount Vernon WA USA Registered: Nov 2000 posted 09-28-2001 08:54 PM                     I don't even know if you can get type A anymore. Haven't looked lately. Shelves are still full of type F, various versions of Dextron, and this new crap Ford uses. (Mercon?) Since Brenkert uses ISO-10, there is no real need to fool with anything else. At 7 bucks a gallon, it still beats 10 bucks a gallon for ATF.  |  IP: Logged Jeff Stricker Master Film Handler Posts: 481 From: Calumet, Mi USA Registered: Nov 1999 posted 09-29-2001 11:30 AM                     Paul, Sorry for the silly question but, is ISO 10 the same as SAE 10? Something tells me it isn't.  |  IP: Logged Bob Maar (Maar stands for Maartini) Posts: 28608 From: New York City & Newport, RI Registered: Feb 2001 posted 09-29-2001 12:51 PM                        I once watched a movie on one of Paul's Brenkerts with aircraft hydraulic oil. One problem: Started watching in a New York Theatre and when I came out I was in a Seattle theatre.  |  IP: Logged Paul G. Thompson The Weenie Man Posts: 4718 From: Mount Vernon WA USA Registered: Nov 2000 posted 09-29-2001 01:11 PM                     Jeff, it is not 10 weight, as far as I know. I don't have the book in front of me, but it would be closer to 5 weight. Actually, the oil now being used is Mobil Velocite #6, which is what Chevron calls Hydraulic Oil AW ISO-10. It is the suggested replacement for AMOCO Spindle Oil A. The Chevron oil is also recommended as a high speed spindle lubricant, as well as Telemotor oil aboard ships. I would presume SAE number and the ISO number are completely different. Paul  |  IP: Logged Jeff Stricker Master Film Handler Posts: 481 From: Calumet, Mi USA Registered: Nov 1999 posted 09-29-2001 04:36 PM                     Thanks Paul, I have checked out the specs of Mobil Velocite #6. Interesting high quality stuff. I await hearing from Josh as to if the oil slinger throws it around well. If so, I'm sure I can get a gallon from the local oil jobber. That would last me a lifetime Jeff Josh - let us know how your experiment works out.  |  IP: Logged Paul G. Thompson The Weenie Man Posts: 4718 From: Mount Vernon WA USA Registered: Nov 2000 posted 09-29-2001 04:51 PM                     Jeff, I think you will be happy with it.  |  IP: Logged Josh Jones Redhat Posts: 1207 From: Plano, TX Registered: Apr 2000 posted 09-30-2001 01:05 AM                        Jeff, you'll hear all about it when I figure it out Josh  |  IP: Logged Aaron Sisemore Flaming Ribs beat Reeses Peanut Butter Cups any day! Posts: 3061 From: Rockwall TX USA Registered: Sep 1999 posted 10-30-2001 12:37 AM                     I received another letter from Mr. Sprague this morning. It had some thank-yous for getting some of you Film-Techers to write him, and had some information concerning the very earliest prototype Century projectors (which have some very Brenkert-looking internals, and some Century-looking stuff as well) as well as two pages of pictures of these super-rare machines. -Aaron  |  IP: Logged

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