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Evans A Criswell
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1579
From: Huntsville, AL, USA
Registered: Mar 2000


 - posted 12-18-2001 09:37 AM      Profile for Evans A Criswell   Author's Homepage   Email Evans A Criswell   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
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Evans, I think you are giving the manager a little too much credit. Most of the really good theaters are staffed with excellent operators (and in house techs) and it is THEY who keep things in alignment. I'm not saying the manager isn't important, but if you were to work at a theater I think you would understand. The manager has got a ton of things to deal with as it is regarding the floor operation and a lot more other things (paperwork of insane levels for one thing) than you realize. He/she does not have the time to personally deal with the booth unless it is a very small theater that does not do much business.

I don't think I'm giving the Regal River Oaks manager too much credit. He's got at least 25 years of experience and although he is busy with floor operations a lot, he seems to keep excellent staff members and trains them well. I believe he gets involved with booth operations more than most managers, since he has the knowledge and technical ability to take care of things. He also has his staff constantly look for problems. Whatever he does works, and that location is measurably better than any other theatre in the Huntsville/Decatur area. I know that the manager is not the only determining factor in determining presentation quality, but in this theatre it is more of a determining factor than in other theatres. This theatre has had different booth people and different staff over the years, but the presentation quality has remained excellent and consistent. That says a lot for the manager, and I don't believe for a second that I give him too much credit. I believe all the Regal theatres in my area have the same "tech" guy, so nobody can argue that River Oaks has a better tech guy. It has the best, most experienced, most professional manager, and if anyone can prove to me otherwise, I'm willing to listen, but I have plenty of data and experience in going there to know how good that manager is.

Long ago, even Roger Frazee (VP of technical services at Regal) made a post here mentioning that manager, saying he was a true professional and that the theatre industry could use more managers like him. Here it is, from December 29, 2000:

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It is managed by Ralph Freehauf who is a true professional. He is dedicated to running a clean comfortable theatre and to putting on a perfect presentation. The industry could use more people like Ralph.


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Jerry Chase
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From: Margate, FL, USA
Registered: Nov 2000


 - posted 12-18-2001 11:19 AM      Profile for Jerry Chase   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Evans, I have to agree with you 100%. It is possible to have a theatre with a great lead projectionist and a moderately good manager, but I've never seen a theatre with a great projectionist and a poor manager. The projectionist will get disgusted and quit rather than work with a bozo. In the case of union houses, the dregs of the shop will get assigned to that theatre.

OTOH, a great manager will set the minimum standard for booth operations (non-union booths) and demote or fire those operators who don't match up. In union situations, these theatres are often seen as the "plums" and fought over by senior operators.

Make no mistake, I am not putting down the skills of any projectionists/tech guys/operators in any way, nor am I suggesting that the manager is singlehandedly doing all the booth work.

What I am saying is that a great manager will not only provide the proper working environment for good people, but he or she will be knowedgable enough to set and maintain excellent standards in all aspects of the operation.

The argument that paperwork keeps a manager constantly occupied can be a bit of a red herring. Many managers offload the repetative paperwork to assistants and employees, then review and correct the reports prior to signing off on them (even if this is against company policy).

There are some circuits that actively discourage such behavior because of the potential for loss of control, but a great manager working like this is often the primary source of the circuit's top new managers. The best thing a circuit can do with one of these gems is perform the standard audits and otherwise leave the person totally alone to do their thing. Such managers have little tolerance for interference, office politics, and policies meant as group punishment because some inept manager screwed up.

Now that you've mentioned the name of this manager, expect other circuits to try and take him away with better offers.

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John Pytlak
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From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922
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 - posted 12-18-2001 01:22 PM      Profile for John Pytlak   Author's Homepage   Email John Pytlak   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Jerry said: "What I am saying is that a great manager will not only provide the proper working environment for good people, but he or she will be knowedgable enough to set and maintain excellent standards in all aspects of the operation."

I'm in total agreement. A good manager will attract and keep good staff, gives them responsibility and clear expectations, and keeps on top of problems without "taking over". They provide the needed tools, time, and support for "Film Done Right". Good people won't keep working for a poor manager, and as news of the manager's bad reputation spreads, recruiting good people becomes difficult.

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Brad Miller
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From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall)
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 - posted 12-18-2001 01:35 PM      Profile for Brad Miller   Author's Homepage   Email Brad Miller       Edit/Delete Post 
Evans, I think you are reading a bit too much into my posts regarding presentation. I was referring more to "the manager" in a general sense and not a specific human being. In your case since it is a small theater where one manager can get hands on in the booth to ensure quality, the manager may indeed have a large part in putting on a good show, but I absolutely GUARANTEE you that is the exception and not the rule. I also still feel you are missing my point regarding good film handling vs. excellent film handling. The theater with good film handling will show print damage (dirt, scratches, splices, etc.) after so many runs. The theater with excellent film handling will run a print for 6 months without anyone being able to detect the film had ever been ran. Plain and simple, if the print has any marks whatsoever on it at the end of it's run, the projection staff is not doing something properly, no matter how minute, and that is unacceptable. My comments were not aimed at your local theater directly, but meant as a general comment in the industry because I am so sick of people claiming they have an "excellent presentation" when I can turn around and walk into the theater and see TONS of problems with prints that have been playing for a week or two. Maybe I am too picky, but film damage is film damage.

I do wish you would take into account that print defects are far more important than show to show problems, for they are permanent and will affect every show from that point on. Having an aperture slightly out of place for one show only affects that one show, whereas dirt buildup or scratches (even if only at the reel changes) affects every showing of that print forever on. An auditorium that is too cold can be remedied by someone on staff altering the settings for the heater. A spill on the floor can be cleaned up. Stale popcorn can have a new batch popped. All of these things are easily "made good", but without a flawless print, the projectionist (or manager) is helpless in putting on a perfect performance. You must look at the bigger picture.

Hopefully I have been able to word this a bit better this time to express the importance of weighing print condition more as time goes on. Opening week is simply not a fair time to perform a print condition rating. For most theaters it is more like "yup, they haven't scratched it yet and the print looks brand new." ...but the print IS brand new! What about a few weeks down the road?" If you go watch "Lord of the Rings" tomorrow on the day it opens and the presentation is flawless, that really should not be a surprise to you and is NOT anything special, for it will have only been ran a couple of times. It's going back to see it in 2 months, to experience exactly (or better) the same quality you saw on that opening day that is impressive.

Jerry does have an excellent point regarding how a bad manager can drive away the good staff. I feel this is not only evident in the booth, but in the floor operations as well.


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John Wilson
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From: Sydney, Australia.
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 - posted 12-27-2001 04:19 AM      Profile for John Wilson   Email John Wilson   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
>>I've seen quite a few theatres that have horribly scratched and dirty policy trailers, but outstanding presentation of the film, because it's still only the first or second week. As a general rule, it seems to be true -- opening night at least looks good.<<

We got some Dolby Digital snipes with the new CP650's and they are truly complete crap. Even from brand new, some of them had printing errors. But most importantly, they are printed on stock marked AGS which seems to be simply cheap stock. Guaranteed, if I am having problems with a print it's on this stock. It simply flakes off spots tops and tails like no other.

My DTS snipes which have been running twice as long are in much better shape.


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Rory Burke
Expert Film Handler

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From: Burbank, CA, USA
Registered: Jun 2000


 - posted 12-27-2001 11:49 AM      Profile for Rory Burke   Email Rory Burke   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
John Wilson raises an interesting point you guys might have over-looked. How many <New clean prints> opening weekend shows get exhibited once a week previewed by crappy scratchy dirty Dolby, DTS, SDDS, & THX trailers? That happens more often than a new print being masacred its first day's debu! So while the main show looks descent it was probably preceded by a true sample of that theater's projection practices.
On another note I believe that an honest theater inspection should be carried out throught the lifetime of the prints; say opening day, compared to a one week inspection then compared to a 4 week theater stay to more acurately rate a theater's exhibition "SOP" <standard operating procedure>.

As far as TAP only checking during the opening day only......I think the reasoning is that most attendance is during this period for anymovie and thus on a priority level it is the most important day to carry out such inspection. Most dirt, scratches, and other print abuses happen from the get go and become apparent almost from the onset of a print's stay at a theater. An out of focus movie is still out of focus.......a misaligned roller still nicks at the emulsion, greasy consoles still contaminate the film.........staticky theaters almost affect new prints worse than older prints!!!!!!

I think that an excellently exhibited show stands out on its own!!! Even on opening day I think there is a difference. Check and see how clean the splices were put on by how much or little it jerks on the screen. Is the movie in focus..the bulb bright and not flickering.....all these little details are directly proportional to a theaters care on the film. Anyway thats mu opinion

Rory

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