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Dave Williams
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 - posted 12-21-2001 02:19 PM      Profile for Dave Williams   Author's Homepage   Email Dave Williams   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
This caused me some trouble as well, as the print of BANDITS i was expecting will be held over at its current location until christmas day and I get to keep RUSH HOUR 2.

Like either is any better.

Dave

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John T. Hendrickson, Jr
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Latest from my neck of the woods is that the print will be delivered on the 24th. It better be, because if it doesn't make it by the time I leave the booth at 4:00PM, it isn't going to be playing on Christmas Day. I don't have an operator scheduled on Chistmas Day who is capable of making up the print, and I'm damed if I'm going to change my whole schedule around to accommodate Harvey Weinstein, nor am I going to wreck my holiday to come in and do it.

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John Anastasio
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I heard that Miramax called them all in because they decided to make an editorial change before the final release. They've made about 5 minutes worth of cuts to change what seemed to be an incestuous relationship. Ryan in the original version has the affair, then sends him back to the past so that she doesn't disappear in the 21st century...made it look like she was making it with an honorable ancestor (as Charlie Chan would say)! It's been altered to remove that inference. I understand that the aim is to make it more palatable to a female audience, since it seems that LOTR is attracting a lot more women than they thought and they'd like to capitalize on that while the going is good.

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Charles Everett
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 - posted 12-22-2001 10:43 AM      Profile for Charles Everett   Email Charles Everett   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
ACNielsen EDI now has the correct release date for Kate & Leopold. Maybe somebody at EDI lurks on Film-Tech.


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Michael Elam
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I saw this movie at Showeast, I thought it was good but nothing special,another You've Got Mail type...Miramax was ravening about
40 Days and 40 Nights which I thought was a waste of film and money,
just another American Pie type.

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Charles Everett
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Ian: UA got a taste of the "Miramax Shuffle" too. The UA East Hampton was supposed to open The Shipping News on Xmas Day but was given In the Bedroom instead. As with Ian's theater the switcheroo came too late to change newspaper listings.

The Royal Tenenbaums breaks semi-wide this Friday and wide 1/4. Disney is handling The Royal Tenenbaums a lot better than Miramax is handling In the Bedroom.

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James R. Hammonds, Jr
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Incidentally, RUSHMORE was released in a similar manner to ROYAL TENENBAUMS, just not so spead out.
I believe it came out very limited for two weeks during the holidays, then had a bigger limites release in late January/early February.
I wonder if Wes Anderson (Director) likes to do this, or if its something Disney just wants to do.

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John T. Hendrickson, Jr
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Okay, so the cans and reels for the print arived today. Does this mean we all kiss and make up with Mirimax? The "right thing to do" would be for Mirimax to send out a letter to everyone this has inconvenienced saying they were sorry and thanking everyone for their help in getting Kate and Leopold up and running on Christmas Day. Are there any Mirimax execs lurking here? Don't hold your breath on either account.

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Josh Kirkhart
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The problems with "Kate and Leopold".

Recieve booking for sneaks on 'Kate and Leopold' for friday and saturday, and 'joe somebody'for sunday.
No print for 'kate' friday, it shows up sat morning (in a box, no cans) with 'joe somebody'. In the afternoon while building 'kate', I am informed joe somebody is here, huh. Two prints for a sneak, and we still don't know why we got two prints we only opened one the following friday.
Sunday rolls around and we get a fax to break 'kate down', send it back. Fast forward and we recieve the print on my one and only day off, Sunday. Ok, cool I can do this and split early on Christmas eve.
My manager informs me we are opening it in a small Dts-Dolby auditorium. Ok where are the dts discs, none are enclosed? I am informed that dts is not sending out any discs for the restructured print. Fine I'll tech it with the old dts discs that I retreived from a local megaplex that had a screening, no reason the prints time code would change right, I'm a dumbass. The discs don't synch in so I tech it in dolby thru a Ulta Stereo processor and spend the next two hours fiddling and reseting the sound to make it sound enjoyable. It had a small wave in the background noise, informed my tech and he came in to replace the sound pot, which took care of 90% of the wave.
This movie has been the worst experience and the most horrible presentation I've ever let happen. Although it showed me a lot of improvements can be made at this theater starting with thumping and recallibrating all the speakers and just basically clean like a madman. I love film and do my best to present in a beautiful manner but it is very hard when you work for a company that only cares if your on-screen. Sorry for my rambling! Happy new year!! Must now go to bed or my wife will kill me. 'night

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Heyward Garner
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BI*CHES!
I hate that Mirimax did this to us... My print shows up TWENTY minutes before the show goes on... Pressure is on me, because our city manager is in the theatre pushing for me to have the show on, on schedule... I open my BOX and find cores, no reels... And all tails. Normally, I would be ok, but they HAD to know that I was lacking any means of utilizing a 6,000 reel to build backwards onto. I would have rigged something, had I the time... Talk about working hard, I had the reels ---CORES rewound and attached and on-screen in time for the show, with the help of one of our assistant managers. I'd rather them of not sent the damn print at all... I just had a similar dilemma with Snow Dogs... AHHHHHH!

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David Stambaugh
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Saw K&L a couple days ago. Was surprised it was running in SR (or the DTS equivalent), not digital (was showing on a DTS-only screen). I complained to the manager, reply is "They never sent out new DTS discs for the new print". Seems like a dumb-ass thing to do, especially since this much time has elapsed since the changes, and they are heavily promoting the movie on TV right now. Why no new discs?

-dave

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Will Morrow
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SR = DTS ???
SRD = DTS maybe, but I was not aware that SR was DTS' equivalent. Please clarify.

Thanks.

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David Stambaugh
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Somebody else may need to help out with this. If a screen is DTS-only, and they don't have the discs, it uses the SR optical soundtrack. They would have to have a processor that can handle the SR analog format. This particular theater has DTS playback units, but I think they use some other non-DTS cinema processor for optical soundtracks, but I'm not sure what it is.

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- dave
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Aaron Sisemore
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>>SR = DTS ???
SRD = DTS maybe, but I was not aware that SR was DTS' equivalent. Please clarify.<<

'SR' stands for 'Spectral Recording' (not 'surround', as many seem to believe), a noise reduction and headroom boosting process developed by Dolby and first used in 1987 on the film 'Innerspace' It is somewhat backwards-compatible with Dolby A-type noise reduction, however the reverse is NOT the case.

'SRD' stands for 'Spectral Recording-Digital' This was the original name given to the sound format now commonly known as 'Dolby Digital'.

DTS has no connections to either format, a quad-format print will have Dolby Digital (SRD), SDDS, DTS, and a SR track. If the film is encoded with Dolby Digital, its analog track will *always* be Dolby SR (IIRC it's a licensing issue to insure that the analog track is SR rather than A-Type)

Early DTS-only films (All Universal titles from 'Jurassic Park' to 'For Better Or Worse' and most MGM films up to 1997 or so, (Bond titles excepted-they have quad-format tracks)) had a DTS-branded A-Type compatible analog soundtrack (the 'DTS Stereo' logo usually seen in the end credits of a film). Later MGM titles used a DTS-branded SR-Compatible analog format.

-Aaron

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Charles Everett
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Bumping this up top for Matt Close.

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