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Tom Fermanian
Expert Film Handler

Posts: 101
From: Sainte Adele, Quebec, Canada
Registered: Dec 2001

posted 01-06-2002 09:23 PM

Gord,
In the province of Quebec, the local distributors do import prints directly from Europe, there are loads of art pictures, specialised releases in french/german/russian/other language with sub-titles etc., some of them are Tri-Acetate, some are polyester(Agfa-or Eastman-fuji) polyester.

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Leo Enticknap
Film God

Posts: 7474
From: Loma Linda, CA
Registered: Jul 2000

posted 01-07-2002 05:25 AM

Gordon: Up until I moved from cinemas to archives early last year, there was still a small but steady trickle of prints from French labs (usually of French titles, but sometimes of British and other European films too) that were still on Fuji triacetate. Eclair seemed to be moving increasingly to poly and had also gone over to high-magenta soundtracks, but LTC were still producing mainly acetate prints. Among the other advantages mentioned I also thought that laser subtitles looker sharper on the acetate prints - possibly because the thicker stock reduced the comparative distance between the focal plains of the burnt subtitle characters and the emulsion?

I do agree with the pro-acetate arguments that have been made here. As most multiplex prints do an intensive 3-6 weeks and are then binned, brittleness and perf damage resulting from age are surely less of an issue than NATO thought they might be when making the decision to convert. And it is far easier and quicker to fix an acetate film break than a polyester platter wrap.

Where poly might be a better bet is for archival release prints (almost always shown in single reels, so wrapping isn't a problem) and rep titles (in distribution for longer, so an acetate print might start deacetylating and going brittle after 1-2 years).

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William Bunch
Film Handler

Posts: 87
From: Misawa, Japan
Registered: Nov 2001

posted 01-12-2002 03:45 AM

Static? What's that all about? I guess "old is better".

All our theaters use cast aluminum house reels within steel "closed door" upper and lower magazines on our 50 year old Simplex XLs running 2,000 ft changeovers. A total cast iron enclosure of sorts.

Never a problem for us, this static thing.

But this is very good info in case any one of our places decides to go platters. Thanks for the discussion.

Bill BuncH
Misawa, Japan

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Charles Everett
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1470
From: New Jersey
Registered: May 2001

posted 02-25-2002 05:26 PM

Bumping this up for John Wilson.

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John Wilson
Film God

Posts: 5438
From: Sydney, Australia.
Registered: Dec 1999

posted 02-26-2002 02:07 AM

Thanks Charles.

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Manny Knowles
"What are these things and WHY are they BLUE???"

Posts: 4247
From: Bloomington, IN, USA
Registered: Feb 2002

posted 02-26-2002 03:57 AM

Christie makes aluminum anti-static rollers for the payout head. I'm about to order them...does anybody have any thoughts on this?

What about the StaticVac device?

btw, I just ordered my first quart of FilmGuard. It'll be here some time next week.

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And, hey! Let's be careful out there.

~Manny.

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John Pytlak
Film God

Posts: 9987
From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922
Registered: Jan 2000

posted 02-26-2002 09:13 AM

Metal rollers provide a path to ground for any static build-up on the surface of the print. Even though KODAK VISION Color Print film has a conductive layer on the back side of the film, the static must find a path to ground, or it stays on the film. That is why platters with non-conductive surfaces (e.g., the Christie AW-2) and plastic rollers tend to have more problems with "static cling". Another way of providing a path to ground is to treat the platter surface and plastic rollers with a conductive anti-stat like "Static Guard" or "Endust for Electronics" --- these compounds contain chemicals (e.g., quarternary ammonium salts) that conduct static electricity.

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