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Mark Gulbrandsen
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- posted 02-02-2003 12:51 PM      Profile for Mark Gulbrandsen   Email Mark Gulbrandsen   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Steve,
Yea, I'm familiar with the Kinoton, however Sundance continues with the use of the Eprad DMUTS. Personally they're alot better deal IMHO. Eprad will produce them for you if you order 6 of them. You might get the 6 produced for a little bit more than the price of one of the Kinotons. I think in fact the last 6 produced were for CLACO, which were in turn 4 were sold to Sundance In my earlier years in this buisness I disliked most large reel DMUT's, but now have alot more respect for them. I've used the Ernemann on a rental job and was somewhat impressed with it, but I still like the simplicity of Eprads idea alot better. BTW: The DMUT was supposedly designed by Al for the original 3 projector Cinerama process. I doubt that many here are aware of that. The Shakemeccannicca tower doesn't even enter into this stuff anyplace as far as I'm concerned. They are way too good at cinching film due to the lack of any constant tension.
The Kinoton is nice, but totally unnecessary at its price.

Mark @ CLACO
www.clacoequipment.com

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Steve Guttag
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- posted 02-02-2003 02:20 PM      Profile for Steve Guttag   Email Steve Guttag   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Actually Steve K, the wire reels are in many ways better than a "normal" reel in this size. The sheet metal reels are not supported very well (only at the hub) and will flex and flap at rewind speeds. The welded wire reels remain ridged and protect the film better. The "fancy" Kinoton reels are chromed. And here is the kicker....they are less expensive than "normal" sheet metal reels with the same dimensions.

With torque motors with "dancer arms" the added mass of the welded "wire reel" is next to irrelevant. I wouldn't advocate them for typical 6000' use on mechanical take-up frictions though.

Steve

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Larry Shaw
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- posted 02-03-2003 07:09 PM      Profile for Larry Shaw   Author's Homepage   Email Larry Shaw   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Steve,

I don't know why the wire reels are "stupid". They are not common in the US, but I don't think that alone damns them. Splices are easier to find. I do know I've cut my hands many times on the nicked flanges of aluminum reels, but never on the chrome plated steel wire ones. Have you had a bad experience using these reels?

Larry

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Larry Shaw
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- posted 02-03-2003 07:21 PM      Profile for Larry Shaw   Author's Homepage   Email Larry Shaw   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Mark,

I think your comment "overly high priced" is uncalled for.

Also, Bill is an excellent projectionist. I have been delighted to have him work with us all over the US and overseas. He was trying to be humorous and modest, as is his style.

Larry

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Gordon McLeod
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- posted 02-03-2003 07:33 PM      Profile for Gordon McLeod   Email Gordon McLeod   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
The old Neumade 3d reels were wire as were the old 2000' neumade house reels had no complaints with them

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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- posted 02-03-2003 08:09 PM      Profile for Mark Gulbrandsen   Email Mark Gulbrandsen   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Larry,
Again.....and this is right off the Sundance site.......
"After projecting films for 40 years, Bill believes he's finally getting it right."
Sorry Larry, but thats a really stupid tag line that makes Bill look like he's finally learned to do his job correctly after 40 years......I brought it up because it needs to be changed!
I know about Bill's qualifications and many people I work with also have worked with him.
And yes, I vote for wire reels...I'd like to see more of them out there....
Mark

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Steve Kraus
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- posted 02-03-2003 08:18 PM      Profile for Steve Kraus     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
No Larry...never had the pleasure. They just look cheap. It's purely an observation and has nothing to do with functionality.

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Jeffry L. Johnson
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- posted 02-20-2003 08:12 PM      Profile for Jeffry L. Johnson   Author's Homepage   Email Jeffry L. Johnson   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Part of Cinema Talk by John Ewing.
The Sundance Film Festival has been much in the local news recently, what with the shot-in-Cleveland American Splendor (based on Harvey Pekar's life and comic book) winning the Grand Jury Prize and all. (We knew Harvey had really made it when he was named "Winner of the Week" in the movie section of the Feb. 7 Entertainment Weekly. "Loser" of that week was Meryl Streep!) But in addition to all the northeast Ohio filmmakers, journalists, flacks, and programmers who went to Sundance, Cleveland was represented by two local projectionists who ran many of the screenings: Bill Taggart and Jeff Johnson. Taggart, longtime projectionist at the Regal Severance Movies in Cleveland Heights, is flat-out one of the best operators in the U.S., and a seasoned Sundance veteran. He is regularly plucked by Boston Light and Sound to do special film screenings all over the U.S. (and overseas). Johnson, a former Co-Director of the CWRU Film Society, has long projected movies at the Cedar Lee and Centrum, the Omnimax Theatre, the Cleveland Museum of Art, and other locations. This was his first year at Sundance, and he deserved to be there. Both are members of the IATSE Local 160.

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System Notices
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It has been 1076 days since the last post.

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Jeffry L. Johnson
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90.3 WCPN: Sundance Diaries: Projecting a Good Image
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Some of the most important stars of the silver screen here at Sundance are people you’ve probably never heard of. Does the name Bill Taggart mean anything to you? How about Jeffry Johnson or Scott Woodruff? You probably won’t see Orrville Kist’s name on any theater marquee. But, without these aforementioned fellows, movies just don’t happen. They are the guys back in the booth who run the various film and digital projection machines at the Park City Holiday Cinemas - one of several movie venues for Sundance Film Festival goers. And this quartet of projectionists all come from Greater Cleveland, which means a good many Sundance films have a Northeast Ohio touch. ideastream’s David C. Barnett paid a visit to the Holiday Cinemas booth and spoke with Bill Taggart, the dean of the team.

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Scott Norwood
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- posted 02-01-2006 05:54 PM      Profile for Scott Norwood   Author's Homepage   Email Scott Norwood   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Nice interview. [thumbsup]

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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- posted 02-01-2006 06:49 PM      Profile for Mark Gulbrandsen   Email Mark Gulbrandsen   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I'm glad Slumdance is gone and the people that it beings to this area have left!

Mark

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Larry Shaw
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- posted 02-02-2006 07:15 PM      Profile for Larry Shaw   Author's Homepage   Email Larry Shaw   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Ummm....we love you too...I guess....

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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- posted 02-02-2006 09:25 PM      Profile for Mark Gulbrandsen   Email Mark Gulbrandsen   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Larry,

I wasn't referring to you. Just the people it attracts... but if you feel that way thats ok, its a free country [thumbsup] .

I just dislike Film Festivals in general and all the plastic people they attract. Its certainly one of the most novel ways to temporarily ruin a nice part of the country.

Mark

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Jon Miller
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Funny, the two San Diego-based film festivals I provide projection services for pull in housefulls of real flesh-and-blood patrons and provide a welcome boost for the theatre hosting the fests. Must be the nature of the festivals or the people down here. [Smile]

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