Film-Tech Forum ARCHIVE: Exactly WHAT type of oil is BEST for the intermittent?

my profile | my password | search | faq & rules | forum home

»	Film-Tech Forum ARCHIVE » Operations » Film Handlers' Forum » Exactly WHAT type of oil is BEST for the intermittent? (Page 2)

This topic comprises 2 pages: 1 2

Author

Topic: Exactly WHAT type of oil is BEST for the intermittent?

Matt Close
Expert Film Handler

Posts: 226
From: Hervey Bay, QLD, Australia
Registered: Sep 2001

posted 02-07-2002 06:00 PM

Oh .... also .... The fork oil the old guy was using in the intermittent was an SAE20 .... however, he likes to spray shellite around a fair bit, and I think some of it may have found it's way in to the intermittent, because what drained out seemed 'very' thin. BTW, what started all this was a 'knocking' noise in the intermittent.

| IP: Logged

Mark Gulbrandsen
Resident Trollmaster

Posts: 16657
From: Music City
Registered: Jun 99

posted 02-07-2002 06:32 PM

Matt,
There is only one type of LaVezzi oil. Contact Norm Lauderbach at norm@lavezzi.com for the name of your nearest LaVezzi distributer.
Mark @ GTS

| IP: Logged

Gordon McLeod
Film God

Posts: 9532
From: Toronto Ontario Canada
Registered: Jun 99

posted 02-07-2002 07:18 PM

I think you will find it too light for the monee machines

| IP: Logged

Mark Gulbrandsen
Resident Trollmaster

Posts: 16657
From: Music City
Registered: Jun 99

posted 02-07-2002 07:37 PM

Actually its a bit over 10 weight which is about right. Its actually a bit dark as compared to most oils!

Another avantage is that it does not evaporate and become gummy and leave deposits in the oil spirals. If ya want to question its use talk to Norm or Al at LaVezzi!
Mark @ GTS

| IP: Logged

Matt Close
Expert Film Handler

Posts: 226
From: Hervey Bay, QLD, Australia
Registered: Sep 2001

posted 02-07-2002 07:51 PM

Thanks Mark

.. Cheers

| IP: Logged

Matt Close
Expert Film Handler

Posts: 226
From: Hervey Bay, QLD, Australia
Registered: Sep 2001

posted 02-07-2002 07:55 PM

.... It couldn't be any lighter than what came out of it!!!

| IP: Logged

Matt Close
Expert Film Handler

Posts: 226
From: Hervey Bay, QLD, Australia
Registered: Sep 2001

posted 02-07-2002 10:11 PM

The oil that was in it (as well as whatever else!) was SAE 20. Is this right to use or not?

| IP: Logged

Stan Gunn
Expert Film Handler

Posts: 176
From: Clematis, in the hills near Melbourne Australia
Registered: Aug 2000

posted 02-08-2002 02:42 AM

Hi Matt

Idont think you will find an agent for lavezzi here in oz
I us SHELL TONNA 68 in every thing it even decreases the lens misting problem with the BAUER U3, I feel grease is not a good thing to use on the rear of most open geared machines as it can prevent oil from getting to the right place by blocking oilways.

The tonna oil is great for open gears as it sticks to the gear and does not get thrown off as other oils will, it can be used in the intermittant as it is light enough, it does not load up a cold machine as some oils do.
After useing it for ten years and no problems I think that speaks for it self, and you can buy it at your local shell agent.

------------------
KALEE FOREVER.
ALL PARTS FOR VICTOR AND KALART VICTOR 16MM PROJECTORS.SERVICE TO 35 AND 16MM PROJECTION EQUIPMENT.
35MM sprockets made to order.

| IP: Logged

Jonathan Worthing
Master Film Handler

Posts: 384
From: Hereford, UK
Registered: Apr 2001

posted 02-08-2002 03:25 AM

If you can't get the right oil for the Monee, 3 in 1 is the best alternative that I've found.

Also with the filling cap on the Monee it is probably one of the best ways of filling it without spilling oil all over the shop..

| IP: Logged

Mark Gulbrandsen
Resident Trollmaster

Posts: 16657
From: Music City
Registered: Jun 99

posted 02-08-2002 11:39 AM

Stan,
There should be someone down there in OZ. If a dealer can supply an Intermittent rebuild kit for a Century, or older Simplex he must be a LaVezzi dealer or a Wolk Dealer.....It is also available through Edw H. Wolk in Chicago as well.
Mark @ GTS

| IP: Logged

Dave Macaulay
Film God

Posts: 2321
From: Toronto, Canada
Registered: Apr 2001

posted 02-08-2002 06:09 PM

I don't think oil is a good choice for Century type open gears. maybe the member suggesting that is thinking of a closed, oil lubricated machine? There aren't any oil holes to block on the Century - there isn't any oil either

I'm assuming the Monee is the same...
Make sure you use a grease made for "open gear" use as this type is a bit sticky, and doesn't liquify as readily as chassis or gearcase grease.
The gears themselves just need a dab of grease on the meshing teeth occasionally. Overgreasing just makes an unholy mess as the grease gets slung all over the inside of the machine. Also, rack the framing all the way to one end, grease the vertical shaft that's exposed, rack it the other way and repeat. You want the shaft-gear area to be well lubed. Check for keyway wear while greasing it too, the sliding gear shouldn't turn very much at all on the shaft.

| IP: Logged

Stan Gunn
Expert Film Handler

Posts: 176
From: Clematis, in the hills near Melbourne Australia
Registered: Aug 2000

posted 02-08-2002 10:41 PM

Mark
Not that I am aware of, we have monopolys here that beleive they should be the only ones to supply cinema parts. So they may take on an agentsy and do not promote it, stops the oppersition from geting it.
Intermittants are usualy repaired by makeing one out six.
I am slowely tooling up to make parts for some types of movements,
I repin cams and rebuild and rebush movements for our locally made projectors also simplex and century.

Dave
have you ever seen a Century full of Graphite grease?
When you deal with this mentality, oil is the best way to go, But yes I agree with you, I look after a pair of centurys were grease is used sparingly and with little mess, But I still advise oil on the vertical shaft.

------------------
KALEE FOREVER.
ALL PARTS FOR VICTOR AND KALART VICTOR 16MM PROJECTORS.SERVICE TO 35 AND 16MM PROJECTION EQUIPMENT.
35MM sprockets made to order.

| IP: Logged

Mark Gulbrandsen
Resident Trollmaster

Posts: 16657
From: Music City
Registered: Jun 99

posted 02-09-2002 09:26 PM

Ben,
Nothing worse than a projector gear train full of grease no matter what type it is. The worst is a machine full of heavy bearing grease or lubriplate! I agree with you on the oil. In fact the original Century C manual specifies a few drops of oil on each gear pair at the start of the day, once and a while on the vert shaft. Of course that was before the modern greases(superlube) that one should be using on these gears today.

On another note, LaVezzi makes a nice hardened steel verticle shaft assy for the Century. It cannot bend like the stock shaft does. I used to rebuild tons of Centurys and I had a batch of hardened shutter shafts made to go along with their vert. shaft. I used S-7 tool steel hardened to R65 and then ground to size at Boston Centerless. All of these machines are still running very well, many after 10+ years. If any of you down under need something from LaVezzi just let me know.
Sometimes with older stuff there is no choice but to make one good one out of 6. Thats common with Motiograph projectors around the states.
Mark @ GTS

| IP: Logged

Gordon McLeod
Film God

Posts: 9532
From: Toronto Ontario Canada
Registered: Jun 99

posted 02-09-2002 10:56 PM

Hadden theatre supply had a hardend century shutter shaft available

| IP: Logged

All times are Central (GMT -6:00)

This topic comprises 2 pages: 1 2

Printer-friendly view of this topic

The Film-Tech Forums are designed for various members related to the cinema industry to express their opinions, viewpoints and testimonials on various products, services and events based upon speculation, personal knowledge and factual information through use, therefore all views represented here allow no liability upon the publishers of this web site and the owners of said views assume no liability for any ill will resulting from these postings. The posts made here are for educational as well as entertainment purposes and as such anyone viewing this portion of the website must accept these views as statements of the author of that opinion and agrees to release the authors from any and all liability.