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Topic: UK Print Delivery Problems (Securicor)
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John Pytlak
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From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922
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posted 02-12-2002 02:57 PM
I've been following this thread for a few days.Could someone in the UK outline the print distribution/warehousing/inspection/shipping practices there? For example, in the US, most of the distributors contract with a film exchange service like TES, ETS, Easy Reel, etc.: TES: Universal, MGM, Buena Vista, IFC, Sony/Columbia, USA, Miramax, Dreamworks ETS: Paramount, 20th Century Fox, Warner Bros., Fox Searchlight, New Line Easy Reel: Sony Classics? TES uses Airborne express to ship prints from their two depots in Wilmington OH and Ontario CA. ETS has several dozen depots around the country (like National Film Service NFS used to have), and use local trucking companies or pick-up at the depot. What is done in the UK?
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Leo Enticknap
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posted 02-12-2002 03:00 PM
Rob: I've no problem with this, or with the template being made available for download from here. I'll dig out my old 'City Screen files' zip disc and see if I can still lay my hands on it...John: Brief summary of UK print distribution practices as follows, but as you're probably aware I left the cinema industry around a year ago so some of this might be out of date. All the major film distributors subcontract their print inventory control operations to a company called Deluxe Film Services (formerly Rank), which operates two large depots: one at Perivale, near Heathrow airport in west London, and the other in Glasgow. From there prints are shipped directly to and from cinemas. The vast majority of these print movements are undertaken by a shipping company called Securicor, which negotiates bulk contracts with the big chains. As a consequence of this, it (supposedly) operates the infrastructure needed to carry out large scale print movements across the UK, and as a result can offer its services to the smaller distributors and exhibitors at a much lower price to any competitor. What I'm suggesting here is that because Securicor has done deals with the big boys, it effectively has control of the market because of the lower costs it can then pass on to the smaller operators. The only significant exception to this jigsaw is the British Film Institute - a major arthouse and rep distributor - which does not use Deluxe for its print stock control activities, but does the job itself, from an office based at the National Film and Television Archive's conservation centre in Berkhamsted, about 25 miles north-west of London. But although the BFI bypass DFS, they still use Securicor to move their films. The problem is that, towards the end of my time working in cinemas, and from this thread it would seem the situation has continued getting worse since, there has been an increasing number of instances of prints not being delivered to cinemas on time, and an especially high number of failures in the case of 'crossovers' - the practice whereby a print is taken directly from one cinema to another, sometimes at opposite ends of the country (overnight crossovers from City Screen York to our sister cinemas in Southampton and Exeter, both around 350 miles away, were not uncommon). Crossovers usually happen in the case of arthouse and rerelease titles, where a small number of prints play for short runs in a large number of houses. Ergo each print is under intensive use and needs to be transported long distances (well, relative to the US, the distances are probably tiny but they're significant here) quickly and efficently. As Dick and Pete both point out, failed film deliveries must now be costing cinemas a significant amount of money in lost screenings, and art/rep houses are being hit especially hard due to the crossover problem. IMHO, the underlying issue is that Securicor effectively has a monopoly on the print movement business, and for that reason they have no incentive to improve their reliability. I'm not surprised that the BFI have taken the lead on highlighting this problem (see the first post in this thread) because as an art/rep distributor which depends on efficient crossovers, they're probably being hit very hard indeed.
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Michael Hunt
Film Handler

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From: Gloucester, Gloucestershire, UK
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posted 02-13-2002 06:02 AM
John, the transport system used to be that a courier company called Data Express, who had a specific film division, run by one John Badham, would collect and deliver all print held by Rank Film Distributors, who had depots in Birmingham, Glasgow, Belfast and London. The Birmingham depot later merged with London.The British Film Institute, who have their own archive and depot always used Securicor. In my university days we'd commented that Securicor were conducting experiments in teleportation with films - they'd worked out how to beam them out from the sending station, but not how to rematerialise them at the receiving station... Data Express were bought out by Hays, who later sold the Data Express part of their operation to Securicor. John Badham went to Securicor as part of the deal. Initially the old Data Express branches continued to handle films, but eventually Securicor branches, that hadn't previously handled prints took over, and this is probably where things started to go wrong. John Badham recently retired from the business...
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Andy Muirhead
Master Film Handler

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From: Galashiels, Scotland
Registered: Dec 2000
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posted 02-13-2002 07:15 PM
I haven't had any major problems with print delivery's from Securicor, certainly nothing that has had me cancel a show.However the amount of times i've had to phone up for ads on a Friday afternoon is shocking. Usually the answer is 'yeah, it's on the van, it's going about town, we'll drop it off shortly' And then it turns up 5 minutes later! They must think this box is not important or something. I feel like saying 'keep it, send it back, because Friday afternoon is no good for me, i want it Thursday or not at all!' On a seperate but related note, why do MEPD send me trailers that arrive at 3pm on a Friday? I know they leave independents till last, but sometimes it really screws up my day, they should get that sorted
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Aaron Sisemore
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posted 02-13-2002 11:09 PM
>>TES: Universal, MGM, Buena Vista, IFC, Sony/Columbia, USA, Miramax, Dreamworks<<Here's more distribs that ship via TES: Artisan, First Look, Lion's Gate, Trimark, First Run, Good Machine, Shooting Gallery... -Aaron
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Michael Hunt
Film Handler

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From: Gloucester, Gloucestershire, UK
Registered: Feb 2001
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posted 02-20-2003 01:07 PM
A little email address that may be of use to everyone in the UK
select.cinema@soe.securicor.co.uk
I've been having to ring the local Securicor depot and ask them when they are going to bother collecting films that have been left out recently, and have had new deliverys left next to them!
I've also got a driver locally who doesn't seem to bother reading the address labels, several times I've had prints delivered to the local UGC, and sometimes their prints have been delivered here!
Finally received a publicity delivery from National Screen today that's been lost in the Securicor system for the past three weeks (I suspect it went to the UGC)
About a month ago Securicor delivered one of our prints to the UGC a week before we were screening it. The lads at the UGC rang us, we rang Securicor, who apologised and promised to collect it from the UGC and deliver it to us...
I go away for a long weekend, get back in on the screening day, and guess what, no print. Securicor had forgotten about it. Luckily we had a car handy (unusual for a venue staffed by Cyclists and Walkers)
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