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Topic: Is digital sound worth it for me?
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Will Kutler
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1506
From: Tucson, AZ, USA
Registered: Feb 2001
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posted 02-14-2002 07:58 PM
Karen,Question for you....why are DTS discs not sent out w/prerelease promos and special screenings? I showed many a promo and was forced to run on a DTS house because of scheduling, etc, and discs were NEVER sent out w/proms...only on actual release date! As for the answering the actual question topic of this thread.... 1)How many screens do you have and what are your revenues? 2)Can you afford to have a tech come out every 6 months or so and eq the screen? 3) Where are you located...are you in the-left-hand-side-of-the-middle-of-nowhere....what would it take to get a tech out to you in case of emerengcy? there are probably other questions to consider. What do you charge for tickets? Digital sound and its maintenance may increase your operating costs, and this may have to be passed along to your patrons...listen to and poll your patrons...are they willing to pay more? There is no reason why you cannot get excellent sound with an analog LED set up...if you choose digital, my first choice is Dolby, because for one reason,it is the most universal of all the formats, then I would choose DTS...
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Ray Derrick
Master Film Handler

Posts: 310
From: Sydney, Australia
Registered: Sep 2001
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posted 02-15-2002 07:18 AM
Brad A, the sad truth is that the vast majority of the population cannot tell the difference between digital sound and analog sound, provided the analog is played on a well aligned, fine slit soundhead with a top quality analog processor. And most of the remainder aren't interested anyway - they're there just to enjoy the movie, not marvel at the technology (just ask any of my three daughters).All the fine detail, like better channel separation, occasional stereo surround effects or louder "bangs" is something that WE pick up on, appreciate and are tuned into, because it is what WE do. The success of digital sound is due more to the advertising hype, the lack of well aligned, well maintained optical systems and the fact that digital installations also usually get new bigger and better amplifiers and speakers, than it is due to any real or perceived improvements that the digital technology itself may offer. It is afterall the same soundtrack, just treated a little differently. I have lost count of the number of times I have witnessed patrons leaving a well equipped cinema in which movie has been playing in analog and when asked "what did you think of the digital sound" they say "it was really great"! This has become a standard joke for certain projectionists I know in Australia. So as others have said, get your analog top notch before even thinking about digital. The small percentage of people who can tell the difference probably would not come to your cinema anyway, even if you did have digital, because if you are still running mono (gasp), then it is highly likely the rest of your presentation is a bit lacking as well.
------------------ Ray Derrick President/Chief Engineer Panalogic Corporation Sydney, Australia Phone: 61 (0)2 9894 6655 Fax: 61 (0)2 9894 6935
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Mike Blakesley
Film God

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From: Forsyth, Montana
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 02-15-2002 01:58 PM
Karen, I understand that the DTS disks belong to the studios. But since it is in your interest as a company to make sure that EVERY theatre having DTS systems gets disks to play with their prints, I'm surprised there isn't some kind of a deal whereby you would have some extra sets on hand to send out to theatres that need them at your discretion? I suppose there is some copyright-related reason why this can't be done, but it would seem to be a good idea. Actually I feel like some people must be overstating the problem of not getting disks. 50%? I get prints from Technicolor just like everyone else, and we have less than 1% of prints arrive without disks. (ETS is the same, but since they're more regional, we could just be in a more dependable area.) On the very rare occasions I have been unable to get disks by calling TES, I almost always have been able to them by calling DTS direct. I think that if a theatre company started getting billed, say $100 for every set of disks not returned, the problem would end overnight. TES scans the disks into the cans, so they must scan them back into the warehouse again. A billing system would be simple and would result in a nice little temporary windfall for the studios.
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Ray Derrick
Master Film Handler

Posts: 310
From: Sydney, Australia
Registered: Sep 2001
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posted 02-16-2002 05:26 AM
AntonioSorry, I obviously didn't make myself clear. I am not saying that digital does not sound better than optical. I was simply stating my observations and experience regarding the majority of the cinema-going audience. My personal opinion as a "professional listener" is that DTS is by far the finest sounding, most accurate film sound system, and it does offer very low noise, discrete channel separation and extended dynamic range, not to mention relative freedom from playback system deficiencies, all of which optical film sound cannot offer. But these are things that you and I know.. the problem is the average cinema-goer either cannot tell the difference or doesn't care. ------------------ Ray Derrick President/Chief Engineer Panalogic Corporation Sydney, Australia Phone: 61 (0)2 9894 6655 Fax: 61 (0)2 9894 6935
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Ray Derrick
Master Film Handler

Posts: 310
From: Sydney, Australia
Registered: Sep 2001
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posted 02-16-2002 04:38 PM
Ok Antonio, I assume you run a top notch digital theatre so try this little test some time: Make sure your reverse scan analog system is correctly aligned and then run a film with a well mixed soundtrack in Dolby SR. Then stand at the door as your patrons are leaving and ask "what did you think of the digital sound?" I will bet you pounds to peanuts that almost all of them will either say that it was great (or some similar superlative), or that they didn't take all that much notice (the latter comment particularly from women, who seem to be generally less interested in such things). Of course there will be some folk who will say "that wasn't digital" but you will find only a few in an average crowd.BTW I should correct one previous statement that I made. I said that in my opinion DTS is the best sounding film sound system, but I meant "commonly available" film sound system. IMHO there is nothing that even comes close to a Dolby SR encoded 6 track mag soundtrack. ------------------ Ray Derrick President/Chief Engineer Panalogic Corporation Sydney, Australia Phone: 61 (0)2 9894 6655 Fax: 61 (0)2 9894 6935
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